ygl wrote:Phuzzy4242 wrote:I just don't think I'm making myself clear. Post the Tideland book in the freaking [REL] Tideland (2006) thread where it belongs.
Chill out Phuzzy, I think this comment was rude and uncalled for. We are just making a friendly suggestion here. You have every right not to like it or implement it, just like we have every right to raise a suggestion and voice our opinions, even when they might be different from yours. So please don't be a dick about it when other members post something that doesn't align perfectly with your beliefs, because I assure you that will happen a lot. It's just a fact of life: not everyone has the same opinions, and thank fuck for that.
The fact you and Rich won't take "We'll see" for an answer and you want this done instantly with no consultation is not a 'suggestion', it's a demand. My comment to you was exactly the correct one after emphasizing it more than once - post the book a film was derived from in the same forum as the film itself. Even if we eventually create a book forum, that would STILL be required. That's not a fuck you, that's simple logic. If you post a source book elsewhere, your post(s) would STILL be moved to the correct forum, like it or not,
because that's where they belong, except you'd make an admin go to the trouble to do it because you couldn't be bothered or because it was a 'fuck you" to the admins.
There have been MANY opinions and disagreements in the 10 years I've been admin and we've worked them all out, but not in one hour and not the instant someone demands it.
ygl wrote:You raised the issue of need. You don't really know what the need for a book subsection might be right now. You said it yourself: you are just going by the fact that nobody suggested it before. Well, now you've got two members suggesting it, and not just any members: two active members who contribute fairly often, which as far as I can tell there's probably no more than ten or so of those currently. So 20% of the most active members. Not to mention one of them is the original founder of the forum himself. I know, he's no longer in charge, but his opinions ought to at least be considered. All of ours should, in the spirit of the community we are, or should strive to be. An open-minded one, not an authoritative one.
If there's such a big need, why haven't there been dozens and dozens of books posted in General in the last 17 years? No one is stopping you
right now from posting your books, and never has been, yet you haven't done so. Where's the need if even YOU aren't doing it? As for how many people are for-or-against, it's still way too early to decide after only a few hours of discussion. That's not authoritarian, it's stepping carefully through a cow pasture so we don't step in crap.
As far as Rich's opinion, he has one and it's just as valuable as anyone else's. I'm not trying to be rude, but he gave up all claim to FLM long ago and no longer has a direct say in its operation. His opinions ARE being considered, as are yours and everyone else who comments.
You haven't been around long enough to know what we went through in the changeover. FLM almost went under, and a lot of it was because we had a VERY bad reputation. I'm not being authoritarian, I'm considering both sides, but my main objective is protecting the reputation we've worked so hard to rebuild, and to ensure FLM's survival. I don't want to see FLM go back to the mindset of its early days when the only reason something was posted was
solely for prurient reasons.
What you propose might be nice to have, but it's NOT needed and could very easily lead to other problems that likewise aren't needed.
ygl wrote:Furthermore, I believe need doesn't necessarily have to be a precondition for the existence of a subsection. It could just as well come after the fact. I can almost guarantee that it will, eventually. I came across this forum by performing a web search for a rare movie and clicking through the result that pointed to its corresponding thread here. I bet this is the same case for almost everyone else. Why can't this also happen with the books? I think it will, and who knows? Perhaps this will end up being the opportunity the forum needed to grow and get more active, contributing members, which is so badly lacking right now.
Maybe so, but again, what's the rush? The idea was posted this afternoon and people are getting bent out of shape because it's not already been done. We don't work that way. If that's unacceptable, then by all means search out a different web site. We'd be sorry to see you go, but you must do what you think is right.