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I am actually looking at the girl in the Cool overalls.

I look forward to your upscale!
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I used the DVD ISO Night kindly provided and made a 720p Topaz upscale. I hope you agree it looks better.
First the previous verion, missing detail in the shirt, muted colours, aliasing lines on the bedrail, softer picture
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I didn't grab the exact frame - but I hope all agree my new version looks a lot better:
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Here's a side-by-side showing that the previous 720p was very very soft:
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2 more example screenshots from mine. Note the 1280pixel wide images are displaying slightly smaller here than full size - open in new window to view full size.
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Topaz has a habit of smoothing over skin features making everyone look a bit plasticy ... if you use the wrong setting. But the setting I used kept the detail. And I of course added the English subtitle as a optional layer (not burnt into the video):
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To save 100mb I did keep only the Italian audio (not the Russian overdub of the italian). Apologies to any Russians but they can mux in the Russian to mine or get one of the other copies if they really want that!
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The encode came out at a very reasonable 1.4gb!
I only pushed it to 720p as strange artifacts appeared when I pushed it to 1080p
1.4gb, 720p DVD upscale with Topaz, Italian Audio, English SRT
I checked the subtitles and some were a bit too short (>20 chars per second when I checked them in Subtitle Edit) so I fixed some of those too.

Files uploading now... here's the files - only 3 (475mb each)
https://mega.nz/file/pUhEyApB#wVDwCJzq2 ... iDzEEUVWE0
https://mega.nz/file/xQomUABa#6bgpcoZTG ... Qqvd7uUfRM
https://mega.nz/file/YBYVBJ7B#4NDinnaJY ... xrGARkuaRs

If someone can share into Emule.
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Thanks, David32441.

Good job. :thumbsup
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ghost wrote: Sat Mar 11, 2023 8:11 pm Thanks, David32441.

Good job. :thumbsup
Cheers. I'm glad this didn't have any video frame rate issues. I think because Virtual Dub detected the other one as 49.997 that it miss-handled the frame rate. This one had a clean 50fps before de-interlacing.
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Thematic discussion of the movie with some spoilers.
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Night457 wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 11:45 pm I have seen the first movie "La Orca" and this one "Oedipus Orca"
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I don't remember any killer whales (orcas) in them. What's up with that?
Literal answer: Alice apparently had the book "Horcynus Orca" (published 1975, 1257 pages!) by Stefano D'Arrigo with her when she was kidnapped in the first movie, and it is in part about killer whales, Latin name Orcinus Orca. The book reappears in this movie and Alice notes that her boyfriend has another copy. She complains that it is boring.
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She then draws a picture of an orca.
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Possible thematic answer, with some Wikipedia reading: "Orcinus" from the orca's full Latin name means "of the kingdom of the dead", or "belonging to Orcus", who was a Roman god of the underworld. Since an orca is actually a kind of dolphin, instead of being called a "killer whale" it could actually be called a "death dolphin".

Alice is a disturbed young woman, unsurprising after being kidnapped, held captive for a month and raped by the captor who professed to love her. (Spoiler alert, he is killed at the end of the first movie, which I don't think would count as an FLM film so I don't care about spoiling it.) She has an understandable fixation on sex and death, which seems to be a quirk shared by her mother. Anyway, it is easy enough for someone to come up with a Freudian analysis of her psychology. Oedipus certainly suggests Freud, although this movies deals partially with a daughter and her father rather than a son and his mother. (Hey, Oedipus had a famous daughter.) And Freud had this whole sex-and-death instinct / Eros and Thanatos theory which would bore me more to talk about than Alice was bored reading that epic novel she had with her.

So, "Oedipus Orca" = obsession with incestuous desire and death.
Or something like that.

The movie does not rigorously follow through any of these themes or connections, but they are there as possible explanations for the title. I am not in a hurry to rewatch the first movie, so I will have to leave thematic orca explanations for that one unexplored.
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ANYWAY, I watched David's lovely upscale and enjoyed it quite a bit! It was WAY better than I had remembered and works well as a psychological study of a victim of trauma, who has really obtuse parents. (They are wealthy, not smart nor sensitive.) Plus there is a bit of titillation to keep it interesting. It is not overly intense and serious, oh no! There is some brief, bloody slaughterhouse footage for the mondo fans, and a death scene that would make Dario Argento smile.

The one regret is that Alice's younger sister does not have more screen time. She disappears from the story far too early. They could have explored further a sister's rivalry for the attention of the father, without needing to get too creepy about it.

Thank you David!

Here it is on eMule -

720p Italian audio and optional English internal subtitles:
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Night457 wrote: Sun Mar 12, 2023 11:52 am Thematic discussion of the movie with some spoilers.
Skip if you are not interested!


Alice is a disturbed young woman, unsurprising after being kidnapped, held captive for a month and raped by the captor who professed to love her. (Spoiler alert, he is killed at the end of the first movie, which I don't think would count as an FLM film so I don't care about spoiling it.) She has an understandable fixation on sex and death, which seems to be a quirk shared by her mother. Anyway, it is easy enough for someone to come up with a Freudian analysis of her psychology. Oedipus certainly suggests Freud, although this movies deals partially with a daughter and her father rather than a son and his mother. (Hey, Oedipus had a famous daughter.) And Freud had this whole sex-and-death instinct / Eros and Thanatos theory which would bore me more to talk about than Alice was bored reading that epic novel she had with her.

So, "Oedipus Orca" = obsession with incestuous desire and death.
Or something like that.

The movie does not rigorously follow through any of these themes or connections, but they are there as possible explanations for the title. I am not in a hurry to rewatch the first movie, so I will have to leave thematic orca explanations for that one unexplored.
Minor spoiler - She also had a month of over-hearing from her captors that her dad wouldn't pay her ransom and so had a constant expectation of being killed. So she's not happy with her dad! Movie takes every opportunity to show her without many clothes on though - so can't be taken too seriously. It's like if soft core porn did Shakespeare :)
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You are totally right about her specific daddy issues, and you put it much more concisely than I would have managed to do!

And there is no denying this belongs to the exploitation genre. I was just surprised that there was actually more to it than that. It is artful exploitation made by intellectuals going for where the audience money is! :lol:

And while Shakespeare was no more than ribaldly suggestive on the subject of sex, for a great example of his capability for blood-soaked trashy exploitative violence check out "Titus Andronicus".
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