[REL] Le grand chemin (1987)

[Night457]

My 8GB Rip doesnt seem to have glitches (or I am becoming blind lol)

Share it! Share it! Share it!

(I logged in and got the torrent file and loaded it into my torrent client, but I am unclear if I will ever succeed in downloading anything unless I sign up for a private tracker [?] or some such ygg restriction. I think my one previous attempt at a ygg file was also a failure.)

I finished watching in its entirety the ulozto 1080 TV rip that pillowbaker discovered and posted about here, back in May 2022:
viewtopic.php?p=93377#p93377
The ulozto rip is here:
https://ulozto.net/file/ORwpqenCqhNo/le ... 987-tv-mkv

So far it is my favorite version of the movie.

CONS: After the end-of-movie freeze frame, the end credits speed by and cut off abruptly.

PROS: (1) No glitches or digital breakup; (2) No commercial breaks; (3) No watermarks; (4) I got the English subtitles synced to it!!

I really don't trust my blind eyes entirely, so it certainly COULD have jittery movement, DNR, haloing, edge enhancement ... but if I don't see it myself, it won't bother me.

I am working further on corrections to the subtitle file before posting it.

I would have been perfectly happy to go the rest of my life with ghost's 720p version from 2016 (!) but the possibility of 1080 Blu-ray rips made me greedy!

If the ygg Blu-rip turns out to be problem-free, then please share it goku! So far it is sitting at a big fat nothing in my torrent client.

[pillowbaker]

4) There is also the watermark-free file that you posted here.

Whaaa?! Well I guess I did. I completely forgot I posted that, and I don't remember if I ever downloaded the file either!

The file I posted was likely created well before the announced bluray, so do you suppose it's likely an upscale? I don't know if my eyes would be able to notice much, but in terms of upscale quality comparisons, ghost usually comes out on top. Do you notice any difference between the uloz 1080p and ghost's 720? (I am downloading the uloz file momentarily)

edit: yeah I already downloaded it and forgot about that too. I'll compare the video quality, but I am interested in what anyone else says too. the uloz file runs at 1:41, around 5 minutes shorter, but that is like a 25 fps thing.

[Night457]

The file I posted was likely created well before the announced bluray, so do you suppose it's likely an upscale?

Your FLM post was in May and the blu-ray was in November, so it was quite possibly less than one year between the two versions, since we don't get to see file posting dates on ulozto. It may have been as little as 6 months. It is from "TV" but has no watermark or any sign of commercial interruptions, so it must be from a premium channel. HD remasters are created before a restored blu-ray release, and sometimes they test interest in a title with streaming or broadcast before doing a physical release. Disk pressing is a real investment, with physical inventory that takes up space if it does not sell. In this case the boutique label Tamasa Distribution licensed a release from the 4k master. How long that 4k master was available and whether it was previously used in streaming/broadcast, I have no way of knowing! My eyes can't look at something and say "Oh, that's an upscale." P

I did not compare this directly to other releases, and right now that would require juggling two different hard drives!! Since I don't trust my eye judgement entirely anyway, that hardly seems worth the effort. I simply take things at face value. "This says it is 720p, that says it it is 1080p. I watch it and see nothing wrong. End of story."

Yes, the runtime difference is due to 25fps of the TVrip vs. 24fps of the blu-ray. Since I successfully got the subtitles resynced I can be certain there is no missing footage! (Other than the abbreviated end credits.) If I decide I do not have the energy to do even more corrections in short order, I will simply post the mostly-corrected subtitles as is. The original version did not have any major issues anyway; I just wanted to make it EVEN BETTER, since I keep watching the movie over and over!

[Night457]

1080p HDTV

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Thank you to pillowbaker for posting the direct-download link!
Here: https://ulozto.net/file/ORwpqenCqhNo/le ... 987-tv-mkv

English subtitles synced and with some corrections:

Le Grand Chemin (1987) TV.en.srt

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Full specifications:

Spoiler: Unique ID : 161278460585797869674180224673868256510 (0x79551A0690D99CC6E6A8A0E1A11594FE) Complete name : Le Grand Chemin (1987) TV.mkv Format : Matroska Format version : Version 4 File size : 4.99 GiB Duration : 1 h 40 min Overall bit rate : 7 095 kb/s Writing application : Lavf57.25.100 Writing library : Lavf57.25.100 Video ID : 1 Format : AVC Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec Format profile : High@L4 Format settings : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames Format settings, CABAC : Yes Format settings, Reference frames : 4 frames Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC Duration : 1 h 40 min Bit rate : 6 825 kb/s Width : 1 920 pixels Height : 1 080 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 25.000 FPS Standard : Component Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 Bit depth : 8 bits Scan type : MBAFF Scan type, store method : Interleaved fields Scan order : Top Field First Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.132 Stream size : 4.80 GiB (96%) Default : Yes Forced : No Color range : Limited Color primaries : BT.709 Transfer characteristics : BT.709 Matrix coefficients : BT.709 Audio ID : 2 Format : E-AC-3 Format/Info : Enhanced AC-3 Commercial name : Dolby Digital Plus Codec ID : A_EAC3 Duration : 1 h 40 min Bit rate mode : Constant Bit rate : 128 kb/s Channel(s) : 2 channels Channel layout : L R Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF) Compression mode : Lossy Delay relative to video : -90 ms Stream size : 92.2 MiB (2%) Language : French Service kind : Complete Main Default : Yes Forced : No

There are NO digital glitches, NO logo watermarks, NO commercial remnants.
One mild flaw is that the closing credits are sped up.

1080p French audio with external English subtitles:
Like this post to see ed2k links  [4.99 GiB]
Like this post to see ed2k links  [94.1 KiB]

[goku33]

My eyes can't look at something and say "Oh, that's an upscale." P

I might be crazy but sometimes I think that with real life films/shows I can kind of sense if it’s an upscale. Although it’s probably also subconscious..when I know for a fact it’s an upscale. My point is sometimes upscale can have artifacts or errors where topaz didn’t get it right. This is why Topaz is the best for regular 2D cartoons. Much easier to guess and add additional pixels.

[ferdi111]

That 5gb tv rip seems to be different than Kesni's 3,29 gb (tried English subs)

[DreamScape]

If the 8GB file is free of defects, then I'm interested. Thanks

[Night457]

I might be crazy but sometimes I think that with real life films/shows I can kind of sense if it’s an upscale.

You are NOT crazy about that. You are younger and must have better eyes than I do.

There are also older people here with better eyes than mine who can notice it too.

That 5gb tv rip seems to be different than Kesni's 3,29 gb (tried English subs)

It IS different. It does NOT have commercial remnants and does NOT have a TV logo watermark. It is sourced from a different, most likely premium channel.

Do I get this right that you’ve all basically abandoned that 12-14gb file (Chinese rip)?

I know that *I* have. I don't want a larger file if it is not BETTER, and digital breakup pisses me off! Coincidence or not, when DVDs brought that to the table also happens to be when I was diagnosed with high blood pressure.

(I’m confused why the 1080p.hdtv is on the table again)

Because NO ONE bothered to evaluate it and report back, good or bad, after pillowbaker's initial post! I DID. HDTV is better than shit defective blu-ray. I was also tired of discussing multiple downloads. There are surely many FLM members who do not care to read my pages and pages of blah blah blah, so I gave them a post with pictures and an ed2k Release, and they can decide if they want it. This was after I took care of my own wish to watch the damn movie again! I watched it twice, and I did not fall asleep either time! This one is really really good, and gets better every time I watch it.

Is there interest in these:

LE.GRAND.CHEMIN.1987.FRENCH.1080P.BDRIP.X264.AC3-FIST 8GB

The answer is YES YES YES. But I agree with DreamScape:

If the 8GB file is free of defects, then I'm interested. Thanks

If a BDRIP does not have those glitches, then it is most likely better than HDTV. But I refuse to put off watching a movie indefinitely in the hope that I will eventually have the "perfect" version. I won't live long enough, I need to watch what I have and enjoy it. If something better comes later, great!

[Night457]

What do you like or enjoy the most about ‚Le Grand Chemin‘ ?

I guess I have always liked cheeky and self-confident young girls like Martine, particularly when they are not shy and more than a little naughty.

But I have also come to appreciate the gravel-voiced actor Richard Bohringer (here in the role of Pelo), also seen at FLM in [REL] Du Sel Sur La Peau (1984) and [REL] Après la guerre (1989). His character adds real depth to the movie, in particular...

Spoiler: ... the ongoing pain and grief felt by both him and his wife over their infant lost in childbirth over 9 years before, neither of them able to provide comfort for the other. Aside from young Louis starting to learn not to be such a crybaby mama's boy due to his charming relationship with Martine, the movie shows the ultimately salutory effect the presence of a young boy has on the relationship between the two adults.

[pillowbaker]

Thanks for emuling the file, Night. I have taken my copy and am helping source it over emule now. I decided to keep the momohd encode as well. I wonder how many different version of this movie I'll have when I'm done.