[REL] The Man From Nowhere (2010)

[Night457]

I promise I will NEVER eMule a 50Gb file until my upload speeds and eMule upload speeds make it reasonable!
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(When I see him next I will tell him.)

[Night457]

Wow, nota-bene! Now that I have it downloaded I can see the difference from the old transfer and how this one IS brighter. The old one was definitely dark. The newer has more prominent yellows, at least in the scenes that are not still all blue! The blu-ray.com review goes into nerdy detail on the video differences:

Spoiler: The Man from Nowhere is presented in 4K UHD courtesy of Well Go USA with an HEVC / H.265 encoded 2160p transfer in 2.35:1. This was shot on film and had a 2K DI, and this 4K UHD release boasts some good upticks in detail levels and some appreciable nuance in the palette courtesy of HDR and/or Dolby Vision, but it may also reveal a slightly more "video"-esque look than the now ancient 1080 version did, one that is rather sleek, glossy and surprisingly grain free. I'm not willing to state outright this had some high frequency filtering applied, since fine detail levels are often so commendable, and there's none of the usual suspects like a smeary quality on tap, but this was the single most interesting thing I noticed about the presentation in 4K, so much so that I had to go to the IMDb to make sure this was not digitally captured. There is visible grain throughout, probably more instantly noticeable against darker backgrounds, and in fact it can be just slightly yellow and chunky looking in some of the darkest scenes, but again there's a certain smoothness to this presentation that really caught my eye, for better or worse. HDR has certainly aided in providing shadow detail in any number of very dimly lit moments, but there's also some very evocative new luster to a number of the grading choices, including the repeated uses of very cool, icy blues, and somewhat warmer yellows. A surplus of close-ups helps to support really excellent fine detail levels on facial features, sometimes even in next to no lighting.

I don't know how much the differences are due to HDR and whether I actually will see them on my TV, but I very much look forward to watching this version to check it out. I think it has been over 6 months since my last viewing.

[nota-bene]

I am going to guess that maybe you saw the movie before the 4k was released, right? Since I can not test the HDR myself, I am curious what difference the HDR layer makes when it is with just a 1080p version.

You're absolutely right, I did watch the old blu-ray - perhaps 10 years ago. I've dug it up to do a quick comparison. Now, HDR is only about colors, and indeed the colors are more vivid on the HDR rip than on the blu-ray, but the difference is not all that big. In fact, a bigger difference in this case is that the rip looks sharper (less pixelated), even though it uses the same 2K resolution as the old blu-ray. Oh, and if I turn off my projector's HDR mode, then it's like night and day (quite literally) compared to when it's on. So the rip will look sharp but washed out unless the screen is HDR capable, or the player is smart enough to tone map the colors for non-HDR screens.

I did the rip this way because this movie needs and deserves the best treatment, i.e. surround sound and HDR. But it's not for everyone; in my experience, those who don't complain about HEVC or HDR will complain about the rip being "too small", without bothering to check it out first.

[Night457]

Thanks for the details, and you describe what I would expect would happen with a non-HDR display.

Tech talk, others may not be interested:

Spoiler: Based on what it looks like just on my computer monitor I guess my monitor actually is HDR capable or does the tone mapping. (I recently downloaded and started to watch a 4k HDR version of a movie, and had to download a 4k SDR version to take its place because my old non-HDR non-4k projector made it too dark!) Just to nitpick, HDR is not "only about colors" unless you consider black and white movies to be a variety of "color". The only real problem with HEVC or HDR is not having the equipment that handles them. I can totally relate to that and appreciate the frustration involved, but I know enough now to look out for what might cause me problems. You are very considerate to warn people of your specs! You can not force them to learn tech-nerdery if they are not interested but the information is there in your posts. My latest discovery is that my sound system (or the USB port on my BluRay player that transfers the data from the hard drive) can not handle video files with lossless 24-bit audio, so I have to convert it to mere 16-bit. I am not ready to upgrade the equipment.

We now return to your regularly scheduled movie thread.