Age Inappropriate Dance Examples

[yekaterina]

After watching these videos I'm starting to think if this is right or wrong? Or are they just some that take dance out of context as exploitation and not an art.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQDVh3ZmxXY&t=11s

R) A Public Health Issue: How a Pornified Culture is Distorting Dance (R Rating)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNwpe3os1M0

This video has nothing to do with it but we assume that I am a dance activist and my point of view is that the girl should not dance or wear little clothes, but for others the eyes lied to us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLXX87dKnp0

[mgray]

I dunno it's just funny to me they post "what not to do" on a video site used by millions (billions?) Like it's got 270k views and they left it up. Are they thinking "oh wow I'm really spreading awareness!" Or are they more likely thinking "well im not taking down my two most popular videos."

My opinion on it is that these are modern dances and these competitions, I assume, are primarily held by organizers and parents. If the parents don't want it viewed dont upload it or unlist it. If the parents don't want the organizers to upload it, petition them not to upload it. Amazing how "problems" can often be fixed through taking really simple measures.

Did this person watch all of Dance Moms fuming:

https://youtu.be/mWZLBDb7DGQ?si=1lQZm-nelkB3mPTm

edit: also third video is very impressive, and the music reminds me of the video game "Chrono Cross"

[yekaterina]

I wasn't outraged, in fact the only episode I didn't see was the forbidden one, and I'm not sure if I say 'I like dance competitions' and someone who is indignant says, 'we should take him to the gallows'.

The same would happen with.
Maladolescenza is a great work of art
An indignant person says: cancel that movie.

My point of view is whether that sector is the majority in the world.

[mgray]

Many of the best movies here would absolutely be erased from history if those kinds of ppl had their way. They're pretty open about it. A lot of ppl will claim to appreciate art until it goes 1 degree out of their comfort zone then they immediately turn pro censorship.

The fact that Dance Moms exists in a world where ppl lost their minds over Cuties just highlights the situational outrage people engage in.

[mgray]

Was watching The Boys s3 today and this scene came up:

https://youtu.be/__41WtN9jRM?si=bN5uLiQAWVO-kP4a

Actress name is apparently maya misaljevic

Nothing quite like a scathing parody where you're doing the exact thing you're parodying!

[Sully23]

Was watching The Boys s3 today and this scene came up:

The mockery of the dance competitions

I remembered Ellen Page in her costume and Sydney Sweeney dancing.

For a moment I thought, why didn't she dress up as Maddie Ziegler and put on a mask and cape but then I thought that scene is eliminated anyway.

[Rich_Visiting]

The powers that be must work on the principle of legality of real life voyeurism. If you can go out into the real world and see it, then it cannot, and should not, be censored.

It's been proven that specific crimes decrease on increase of digital access. It's also been proven that digital access increases other specific crimes related to that content - but that majoritively they do not occur in the real world.

The powers must also consider the principle of non-interference. This is why YouTube (within the last 2 years) disabled comments on videos with children, that has worked with excellent effect. It also has the secondary effect of not normalising certain responses to the videos.

The fact that these (OP) videos are shared openly, with high number of views, aligns with the above and gives control within the boundaries of currently promoted exhibitionism. Further, it acts a societal control mechanism by the arising conflict between those that like it and those that don't. For control, you must make something seem bad, so that the 'bad' stuff that you really dont want society to access/do is not pursued through the natural instinct of people in society to break the rules (i.e., be different/rebel etc.).

Or it could just be girls dancing Just my thoughts on a Sunday night.

Rich

[goku33]

I wasn't outraged, in fact the only episode I didn't see was the forbidden one, and I'm not sure if I say 'I like dance competitions' and someone who is indignant says, 'we should take him to the gallows'.

The same would happen with.
Maladolescenza is a great work of art
An indignant person says: cancel that movie.

My point of view is whether that sector is the majority in the world.

I don’t think you can’t really compare an exploitive film like Maladolescenza with dance competition that might have too sexualized dance routines. The film has scenes that no child actor or actress should ever perform on film if the well being of the kid is important & taken seriously.

Back to the topic: I grew up fairly liberal and going to nude beaches as a family etc. so I am not prude or anything. But I do think some modern dance routines shouldn’t be performed under a certain age or let’s just say I wouldn’t let my own children do it. A 10yo doesn’t need to shake their ass on Stage And be in Outfits adult women would usually wear.

It’s a fine line, some would probably even say wearing tight ballet outfits is provocative (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQSYJ4_Fp0M) But I do think some of the „modern“ dances really are just copying from (already sexualized) adult-themed choreographies.

[Sully23]

It's been proven that specific crimes decrease on increase of digital access. It's also been proven that digital access increases other specific crimes related to that content - but that majoritively they do not occur in the real world.

I don't know if I think it's funny.
Well, maybe I'll find an expert to support your theory.

The powers must also consider the principle of non-interference. This is why YouTube (within the last 2 years) disabled comments on videos with children, that has worked with excellent effect. It also has the secondary effect of not normalising certain responses to the videos.

I remember that before this measure certain videos used to be normal, there was a vlogger who uploaded her diary and when she went to the beach, she did not wear the top garment perhaps because it is normal in Nordic countries, today these videos can not be found and the comments while some asked not to be exhibited and the others .....we know, the point is that because of these 'comments' the policy was tightened and many vlogs were removed.

The fact that these (OP) videos are shared openly, with high number of views, aligns with the above and gives control within the boundaries of currently promoted exhibitionism.

Maybe we'll talk sometime about Instagram or Tik Tok. When I met a lot of girls who use those networks, it's just that they only care about having followers regardless of voyeurism or too many voyeurs whether it's her https://www.first-loves.com/forums/view ... ina+Shmidt or any other girl there's only $$$ involved and even then you can't kill the cow that produces more milk.

[mgray]

I wasn't outraged, in fact the only episode I didn't see was the forbidden one, and I'm not sure if I say 'I like dance competitions' and someone who is indignant says, 'we should take him to the gallows'.

The same would happen with.
Maladolescenza is a great work of art
An indignant person says: cancel that movie.

My point of view is whether that sector is the majority in the world.

Back to the topic: I grew up fairly liberal and going to nude beaches as a family etc. so I am not prude or anything. But I do think some modern dance routines shouldn’t be performed under a certain age or let’s just say I wouldn’t let my own children do it. A 10yo doesn’t need to shake their ass on Stage And be in Outfits adult women would usually wear.

To be clear, i probably agree with you on Maladolescenza, I haven't really looked fully into it or watched it, but obviously posting here I'm aware of it and I think it could cross some exploitative lines that violate social norms in a way that a parent should be obligated to protect their child from as a rule. Meaning there could be some theoretical society where a film like that wouldn't be considered harmful but we only have our actual existing society and broader societal morality with which to judge this films existence. Whether it should be erased from existence is something I'd have to think about more, rather just blurting out my feelings on it. I'd probably say it should exist so we can point to it as a marker of what actually crosses a line


I'm not attacking anyone, everyone has a right to their personal values, I think the more interesting conversation is when we believe we should apply said values more broadly onto society. I have no kids but I def lean toward "possibly not" when it would come to allowing my own actual child to participate in modern dance classes, and 100% no to allowing it to be uploaded online, but that's more of a personal privacy principle.

One more thing I worry about is when we start down the path of "this is not ok" it never stops there. There's always a person that's just that further step more for censorship. I remember watching a Matilda the Musical react video where the woman got very uncomfortable with a moment in the popular "revolting children" hallway dance scene. It is about as safe a dance routine as you can have that would ever go viral on tiktok but still she got very upset at a particular moment of the dance that I dont think 95% of people would even catch, so it worries me conceding anything to these type of people knowing it never stops at a reasonable place and we always eventually land at "metal music is satanic" "d and d is actual witchcraft" levels of insanity.

(This is a heavily trimmed down version of what I considered posting, I've been working on making my points more succinct and less rambly but I've got a ways to go )