Thanks emuler again for your persistence in trying to help me, and FLL as well.
How do I configure xp firewall?
I should say at this point at times I get quite decent seppeds currently have "bastard out of carolina" downloading at around 10kbs....
However my id remains at low, and the main thing I am seeing is that all my downloads start, download a bit, and then stop, and remain waiting. I have 24 downloads at the moment, but all have only downloaded a tiny bit and stopped.
Most frustratingly Ponette (a film I have been trying to get hold of for years) downloaded extremely fast for a few minutes but then stopped at 27mb of 697 complete. Is this normal for downloads to suddenly stop after have to wait days just for them to download another few mb, or again is this a direct result of my low id?
Help with emule, complete novice.
Re: Help with emule, complete novice.
Do NOT use XP built in firewall - it is frankly a pain - use a 3rd party such as Zonealarm (others will give you other good firewalls). NEVER use Norton Internet Security.
OK. So assuming you have set your port forwarding on say 4665 TCP and 4675 UDP (By the way, it will work quite happily on TCP only, and you CAN (although I will meet fierce opposition here !) turn off KAD - I have never used KAD and have been a major supplier of found rare tiltes here), try firstly turn off the firewall you have on, reboot, do you get Highid ? If so, you have configured the firewall too stringently. I tried configuring just to allow traffic through those ports designated and got Lowid every time. I now have all Emule traffic both ways through all ports allowed, and this works fine - Highid every time.
Your final question, this is not unusual at all to find downloads stop - sources DO go offline and then you have to wait either for the original to come back online, or to reach the front of the queue in an alternative source - that is the nature of the beast ! Frustratingly, this quite often happens in the nervous 90s and there is a reason for this, but maybe will let someone else have a go with that one.
HTH
OK. So assuming you have set your port forwarding on say 4665 TCP and 4675 UDP (By the way, it will work quite happily on TCP only, and you CAN (although I will meet fierce opposition here !) turn off KAD - I have never used KAD and have been a major supplier of found rare tiltes here), try firstly turn off the firewall you have on, reboot, do you get Highid ? If so, you have configured the firewall too stringently. I tried configuring just to allow traffic through those ports designated and got Lowid every time. I now have all Emule traffic both ways through all ports allowed, and this works fine - Highid every time.
Your final question, this is not unusual at all to find downloads stop - sources DO go offline and then you have to wait either for the original to come back online, or to reach the front of the queue in an alternative source - that is the nature of the beast ! Frustratingly, this quite often happens in the nervous 90s and there is a reason for this, but maybe will let someone else have a go with that one.
HTH
Re: Help with emule, complete novice.
Thanks billaben, I tried rebooting, with the firewall turned off, and I get low id whatever I do, whether the firewall is on, different ports settings etc. Its always low regardless.
I don't think port forwarding has worked, even though I followed the steps stage by stage. Possibly something to do with the final page I received when going through the process, where I go into my router set up by putting in my ip address, and clicking on the forward tab, there are a number of options at the top
Ext.Port Protocol
TCP Protocol
UDP IP Address Enable
There are then 10 columns, each all blank, I simply filled in the top column with the
for the ext port bit I have 4665 to 4675, protocol tcp and protocol udp boxes are both ticked (both)and my ip address is correct at the end column. I then click "apply" and it saves my settings.There is a final column which says "enable" where you can tick the box, I currently have this ticked.
There are further options at the bottom, upnp forwarding and port triggering, clicking on either of these brings up a new page of options, but my guide says nothing about this, according to the help step by step manual I used for my router it should now be working, but isn't.
On a seperate note I keep seeing the message "avg connecting to ...... host, whilst the icon spins round in the bottom right hand corner, is that just telling me that 1 of my downloads is connecting?
Just a final thing, (and remember I have never used this before)in the my info box on emule which tells me my id is low my ip port is a different number to the ip address I have entered when forwarding my ports. Seems to be using my ip address, rather than the static ip I created with a different number. Should these match? as they are different.
I don't think port forwarding has worked, even though I followed the steps stage by stage. Possibly something to do with the final page I received when going through the process, where I go into my router set up by putting in my ip address, and clicking on the forward tab, there are a number of options at the top
Ext.Port Protocol
TCP Protocol
UDP IP Address Enable
There are then 10 columns, each all blank, I simply filled in the top column with the
for the ext port bit I have 4665 to 4675, protocol tcp and protocol udp boxes are both ticked (both)and my ip address is correct at the end column. I then click "apply" and it saves my settings.There is a final column which says "enable" where you can tick the box, I currently have this ticked.
There are further options at the bottom, upnp forwarding and port triggering, clicking on either of these brings up a new page of options, but my guide says nothing about this, according to the help step by step manual I used for my router it should now be working, but isn't.
On a seperate note I keep seeing the message "avg connecting to ...... host, whilst the icon spins round in the bottom right hand corner, is that just telling me that 1 of my downloads is connecting?
Just a final thing, (and remember I have never used this before)in the my info box on emule which tells me my id is low my ip port is a different number to the ip address I have entered when forwarding my ports. Seems to be using my ip address, rather than the static ip I created with a different number. Should these match? as they are different.
Re: Help with emule, complete novice.
Your internal and external IP addresses are two different things. Did you go to www.portforward.com like I suggested?
I have successfully used eMulePlus (also eMule and Azureus) with Windows internal firewall (on XP SP2 and Vista RC1), Zone Alarm and Norton Internet Security. Never had a problem with any of them; just a matter of choice, I guess, but they all work.
If you are sticking with the XP firewall, there is an option in your client preferences/options to 'open client ports in WinXP internal firewall'. Make sure that is enabled.
There is very dramatic speed choking if your upload speed is set too high. Even if you have a fat pipe to the internet, try setting your upload speed to a conservative value; you can always increase it later when your system is more stable.
If you are using XP SP2, you must apply a tcpip.sys patch to increase the preset limit of 10 half-open connections to about 100. Get the patch from http://www.lvllord.de, or install XP-Antispy and use the built-in patcher.
I have successfully used eMulePlus (also eMule and Azureus) with Windows internal firewall (on XP SP2 and Vista RC1), Zone Alarm and Norton Internet Security. Never had a problem with any of them; just a matter of choice, I guess, but they all work.
If you are sticking with the XP firewall, there is an option in your client preferences/options to 'open client ports in WinXP internal firewall'. Make sure that is enabled.
There is very dramatic speed choking if your upload speed is set too high. Even if you have a fat pipe to the internet, try setting your upload speed to a conservative value; you can always increase it later when your system is more stable.
If you are using XP SP2, you must apply a tcpip.sys patch to increase the preset limit of 10 half-open connections to about 100. Get the patch from http://www.lvllord.de, or install XP-Antispy and use the built-in patcher.
Re: Help with emule, complete novice.
Yes mate, I used that site, found my specific router, and followed the instructions from there.
Although I am experiencing problems with emule being behind a firewall, port forwarding my torrents don't have a problem connecting to the full green light, so I thought the settings I had would work but they didn;t.
I'm going to read back through this thread and see if I have missed anything. Its frustrating as I don't think I have and according to the portforward.com instructions which I followed it should now be working. Thats why i'm struggling a bit, I did everything like it said and still i'm a low id. (Although since changing my port quantities to 4675 and 4675 instead of 50,000 for each I have not downloaded anything from emule in 2 hours, but people are uploading from me.)
Although I am experiencing problems with emule being behind a firewall, port forwarding my torrents don't have a problem connecting to the full green light, so I thought the settings I had would work but they didn;t.
I'm going to read back through this thread and see if I have missed anything. Its frustrating as I don't think I have and according to the portforward.com instructions which I followed it should now be working. Thats why i'm struggling a bit, I did everything like it said and still i'm a low id. (Although since changing my port quantities to 4675 and 4675 instead of 50,000 for each I have not downloaded anything from emule in 2 hours, but people are uploading from me.)
Re: Help with emule, complete novice.
Well good - firewall ruled out. Looks like as you say port forwarding is the problem.
On my router this is under "applications and gaming". you then put the name of the application (emule), the start and end ports (in your case 4665/4665), the protocol (TCP), and then click the "enable" box.The SAVE those settings. I would then reset the router to ensure it has picked up the new settings.
Yours may be different but the principles are similar. If you really are struggling, post the make of your router here and someone will be able to sort this for you.
On my router this is under "applications and gaming". you then put the name of the application (emule), the start and end ports (in your case 4665/4665), the protocol (TCP), and then click the "enable" box.The SAVE those settings. I would then reset the router to ensure it has picked up the new settings.
Yours may be different but the principles are similar. If you really are struggling, post the make of your router here and someone will be able to sort this for you.
Re: Help with emule, complete novice.
The router I am using is Linksys BEFSR41 v1.40.2(although it dosen't have a version its just befsr41 but there isn't a set of instructions for this on its own, so I just went with the first version and the instructions seemed to work and follow my router exactly.
I put in 192.168.1.1 which enables me to acces my router settings, click on advanced then go to forwarding.
Think brings up a blank table with 10 settings. I have entered my settings in the first column (the other 9 remain blank) for the ext port bit I have 4665 to 4675, protocol tcp and protocol udp boxes are both ticked (both)and my ip address is the static ip I created following the portforward.com instructions earlier. I have applied them but with no luck.
I put in 192.168.1.1 which enables me to acces my router settings, click on advanced then go to forwarding.
Think brings up a blank table with 10 settings. I have entered my settings in the first column (the other 9 remain blank) for the ext port bit I have 4665 to 4675, protocol tcp and protocol udp boxes are both ticked (both)and my ip address is the static ip I created following the portforward.com instructions earlier. I have applied them but with no luck.
Re: Help with emule, complete novice.
Here's a little info on how eMule typically works. It will help you interpret what you are seeing. There are lots of circumstances which can routinely alter these scenarios, but this is the eMule "ideal".household wrote:Most frustratingly Ponette (a film I have been trying to get hold of for years) downloaded extremely fast for a few minutes but then stopped at 27mb of 697 complete. Is this normal for downloads to suddenly stop after have to wait days just for them to download another few mb, or again is this a direct result of my low id?
When you are downloading a file, eMule asks the server for clients who are sharing that file. It then tries to briefly connect to them to get into their queue, if it can (they have a high ID). If they have a low ID and you have a high ID, you have to wait for them to try to connect to you, and if you both have low IDs then you won't be able to transfer with each other. If you are in someone's queue then eMule will connect back to them once or twice an hour to say "I am still here and waiting for you", after an hour with no contact they will drop you. (KAD connections work similarly but without a server, and "firewalled" is the KAD equivalent of "low ID").
eMule divides files up into 9500KB (9.28MB) chunks. If you have the entirety of a given chunk then it advertises that fact to others who need that particular chunk. When uploading a chunk to others eMule prefers to upload the whole thing, so that there is now one more source on the network for that chunk. That's why most often transfers from another client go for 9.28MB, after which you go back into their queue to wait your turn again. So downloads are rarely continuous, they stop and start. The fewer complete sources there are the longer you are likely to have to wait before you reach the top of someone's queue and they have an upload slot open for you. Use the "sources info" links here (or eMule's Search) to get a general idea of how many sources there are, that info isn't close to definitive but can help you choose between different versions.
If you have a high ID, then when you reach the top of another user's queue the other client can immediately connect to you and start transferring. If you have a low ID, they have to wait until the next time you check in with them, at which point they are probably transferring to the next guy in their queue who they could directly connect to, so you have to wait some more or transfer at a reduced rate. Also, if you have a low ID you probably won't advance through their queue as quickly and are more likely to get dropped from their queue due to communications problems. So these delays and rate issues, plus the fact that with a low ID you can't transfer from other low ID sources at all, means that downloads ultimately work with a low ID but can take much longer.
Re: Help with emule, complete novice.
I noticed one mistake: protocol tcp and protocol udp boxes are both ticked
Note down which is your tcp port and which is your udp port and only tick the correct protocol for each port in the router settings.
Note down which is your tcp port and which is your udp port and only tick the correct protocol for each port in the router settings.
Re: Help with emule, complete novice.
I could have sworn that when I originally set up my router I did it in one continuous range with both TCP and UDP on all the ports, and that it worked. But no harm setting it up with the exact ports, and there may be circumstances where it's necessary.
Since the forwarding looks like it should be set up properly, I'd turn off UPnP in the router and/or in eMule (not sure where you do that in eMule). UPnP is designed to make all this port forwarding stuff automatic but I've never had great luck with it, a couple of times I thought it was actually interfering.
My own experience is things often are set up correctly but seem not to work right away, because Windows or the firewall is stuck on the previous settings. Once everything is set how you want it try rebooting (both your PC and the router) and try the connection test again. Don't reboot more often than every 15 mins or so, though, other clients may ban you as a leecher.
Since the forwarding looks like it should be set up properly, I'd turn off UPnP in the router and/or in eMule (not sure where you do that in eMule). UPnP is designed to make all this port forwarding stuff automatic but I've never had great luck with it, a couple of times I thought it was actually interfering.
My own experience is things often are set up correctly but seem not to work right away, because Windows or the firewall is stuck on the previous settings. Once everything is set how you want it try rebooting (both your PC and the router) and try the connection test again. Don't reboot more often than every 15 mins or so, though, other clients may ban you as a leecher.