[REL] Tigermilch (2017)

[goku33]

mi didn't wanna pay for it, so it make me wait 5 hours between chunks. I could get 2 chunks at a time, of 11 chunks.
Also, 10GB for a 90 minute movie is ridiculously bloated, a CO2 vomiting waste of bandwidth and server time. And diskspace. I downsized to 960p x 540p and 900 KB/S which gave NO visual difference whatsoever on my 40 inch TV.

If you have a VPN you should be able to disconnect and reconnect, then download more from MEGA.

10 GB is fairly typical for bluray rips. I don't understand the appeal of super-small, low bitrate bluray rips unless your internet connection is slow or it's for viewing on a phone (or other device with a small screen) where you honestly can't tell the difference. Talking head interview type clips may show no visible flaws even on a larger screen. But dark scenes, or scenes with a lot of rapid motion, look bad at low bitrates.

A 540p version on a full size TV? It's literally not possible to halve the number of lines in an image without losing a noticeable amount of picture quality. You may still find it quite watchable - I watch DVDs and DVD spec videos all the time on my 4K TV - but saying it's decent quality isn't the same as being unable to tell the video apart from full HD. If you don't see any visual difference you may need glasses, or an updated prescription.

I guess @Triela belongs to YIFY (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YIFY) hehehehehehe

[Night457]

I use YTS all the time because it works perfectly well for the vast majority of my downloads, and it is reliably sourced and fast. I know I will be lucky if I watch a movie even once. If a movie is something I really value for repeat viewings, then I go for the larger files without hesitation. I can understand those who do not want take forever downloading AND use up all their storage space!

[Triela]

For those who prefer smaller files,
1080p 1.96Gb German with external English subtitles, seeded: https://yts.mx/movies/tiger-milk-2017

EDIT: It took me 10 minutes to download.

Vive la difference????


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[David32441]

mi didn't wanna pay for it, so it make me wait 5 hours between chunks. I could get 2 chunks at a time, of 11 chunks.
Also, 10GB for a 90 minute movie is ridiculously bloated, a CO2 vomiting waste of bandwidth and server time. And diskspace. I downsized to 960p x 540p and 900 KB/S which gave NO visual difference whatsoever on my 40 inch TV.

If you have a VPN you should be able to disconnect and reconnect, then download more from MEGA.

10 GB is fairly typical for bluray rips. I don't understand the appeal of super-small, low bitrate bluray rips unless your internet connection is slow or it's for viewing on a phone (or other device with a small screen) where you honestly can't tell the difference. Talking head interview type clips may show no visible flaws even on a larger screen. But dark scenes, or scenes with a lot of rapid motion, look bad at low bitrates.

A 540p version on a full size TV? It's literally not possible to halve the number of lines in an image without losing a noticeable amount of picture quality. You may still find it quite watchable - I watch DVDs and DVD spec videos all the time on my 4K TV - but saying it's decent quality isn't the same as being unable to tell the video apart from full HD. If you don't see any visual difference you may need glasses, or an updated prescription.

I also did my re-encode. But 1080p at a quality rate of about "20" in Handbrake to make a 3.2gb 1080p file. 8+gb for 90 minutes is a bit excessive for a flm that I'm not going to re-watch, or need to preserve every ounce of quality. But then I'm watching on a 65" TV from 9 feet. Downscaling to 540p is fine if you're watching on a old phone or something!

[goku33]

mi didn't wanna pay for it, so it make me wait 5 hours between chunks. I could get 2 chunks at a time, of 11 chunks.
Also, 10GB for a 90 minute movie is ridiculously bloated, a CO2 vomiting waste of bandwidth and server time. And diskspace. I downsized to 960p x 540p and 900 KB/S which gave NO visual difference whatsoever on my 40 inch TV.

If you have a VPN you should be able to disconnect and reconnect, then download more from MEGA.

10 GB is fairly typical for bluray rips. I don't understand the appeal of super-small, low bitrate bluray rips unless your internet connection is slow or it's for viewing on a phone (or other device with a small screen) where you honestly can't tell the difference. Talking head interview type clips may show no visible flaws even on a larger screen. But dark scenes, or scenes with a lot of rapid motion, look bad at low bitrates.

A 540p version on a full size TV? It's literally not possible to halve the number of lines in an image without losing a noticeable amount of picture quality. You may still find it quite watchable - I watch DVDs and DVD spec videos all the time on my 4K TV - but saying it's decent quality isn't the same as being unable to tell the video apart from full HD. If you don't see any visual difference you may need glasses, or an updated prescription.

I also did my re-encode. But 1080p at a quality rate of about "20" in Handbrake to make a 3.2gb 1080p file. 8+gb for 90 minutes is a bit excessive for a flm that I'm not going to re-watch, or need to preserve every ounce of quality. But then I'm watching on a 65" TV from 9 feet. Downscaling to 540p is fine if you're watching on a old phone or something!

Im Download some VR p0rn where scenes can be as big as 90GB in 8K resolution LOL. You won’t see me complaining about some 8GB 1080p encode. People that absolutely need to have small file sizes, can always do their HEVC/h265 re-encodes.

The internet is changing ovee the Years. Who knows how easy it will be to download some films in 5 or 10 years. Archiving them now in good/best quality is crucial i think. I don’t want to rely on some 540p reencodes that look like som grainy old dvd or vhs on a 1080p/4K Monitor.

[BugMeNot9999]

They pushed it about as far as they could have. I'm guessing the laws in Germany aren't all that different from the laws here in the US, nudity okay, sex acts not. You don't see many underage nude scenes in America but that's due to self-censorship and the culture. If you could find an actress willing to do it, a parent willing to let them, and a producer who didn't care about consumer boycotts, it would be perfectly legal. Having her ride a guy though - that could get you in trouble.

Flora Thiemann confirmed that the hotel room scene involved doubles (which is pretty obvious when you watch it) but the outdoor dance was all them.

You're right, the pool scene was also very nice. Flora and Emily are two amazingly beautiful young ladies.

I think no body doubles were used even in the hotel scene, and the actresses and director only said otherwise for legal reasons.
In fact, if you watch the scene closely,

Spoiler: the only shots that could have been performed by body doubles are those showing the lower backs of the two girls from behind as they simulate the act on top of the men. In the shot featuring Emily Kusche's character, we catch a glimpse of her right hand wearing a series of colorful bracelets, the same ones worn by the actress throughout the rest of the scene. In the one featuring Flora Thiemann's character, we catch (only for one frame) glimpse of the black bracelet the actress wears on her right hand throughout the scene. Is it possible that the production was so meticulous in preparing details that are barely noticeable? More, in the final part of the scene, both Flora Thiemann and Emily Kusche are seen sitting on the bed with their bottoms exposed for a few frames. Kusche is also shown in the same state as she gets up from on top of the man. [Image] [Image] [Image] [Image]

[deadman]

I think no body doubles were used even in the hotel scene, and the actresses and director only said otherwise for legal reasons.
In fact, if you watch the scene closely,

Spoiler: the only shots that could have been performed by body doubles are those showing the lower backs of the two girls from behind as they simulate the act on top of the men. In the shot featuring Emily Kusche's character, we catch a glimpse of her right hand wearing a series of colorful bracelets, the same ones worn by the actress throughout the rest of the scene. In the one featuring Flora Thiemann's character, we catch (only for one frame) glimpse of the black bracelet the actress wears on her right hand throughout the scene. Is it possible that the production was so meticulous in preparing details that are barely noticeable? More, in the final part of the scene, both Flora Thiemann and Emily Kusche are seen sitting on the bed with their bottoms exposed for a few frames. Kusche is also shown in the same state as she gets up from on top of the man. [Image] [Image] [Image] [Image]

That's the whole art of using body doubles. You find girls (in this case young women) with the same build, style their hair the same way, make sure any clothing or jewelry is exactly the same. Meticulous is the word. You can't include their faces in the shot - that's the one caveat, and often the viewer's biggest clue body doubles were used. The last shot only shows the two girls getting up. The director staged the scene in such a way that their 14 year old leads didn't actually have to get on top of the male actors in their underwear and ride them.

Frankly I'm surprised they got the girls to dance around naked in the park. Neither of them had done anything like that before.

[BugMeNot9999]

I think no body doubles were used even in the hotel scene, and the actresses and director only said otherwise for legal reasons.
In fact, if you watch the scene closely,

Spoiler: the only shots that could have been performed by body doubles are those showing the lower backs of the two girls from behind as they simulate the act on top of the men. In the shot featuring Emily Kusche's character, we catch a glimpse of her right hand wearing a series of colorful bracelets, the same ones worn by the actress throughout the rest of the scene. In the one featuring Flora Thiemann's character, we catch (only for one frame) glimpse of the black bracelet the actress wears on her right hand throughout the scene. Is it possible that the production was so meticulous in preparing details that are barely noticeable? More, in the final part of the scene, both Flora Thiemann and Emily Kusche are seen sitting on the bed with their bottoms exposed for a few frames. Kusche is also shown in the same state as she gets up from on top of the man. [Image] [Image] [Image] [Image]

That's the whole art of using body doubles. You find girls (in this case young women) with the same build, style their hair the same way, make sure any clothing or jewelry is exactly the same. Meticulous is the word. You can't include their faces in the shot - that's the one caveat, and often the viewer's biggest clue body doubles were used. The last shot only shows the two girls getting up. The director staged the scene in such a way that their 14 year old leads didn't actually have to get on top of the male actors in their underwear and ride them.
Frankly I'm surprised they got the girls to dance around naked in the park. Neither of them had done anything like that before.

Maybe you're right.
I'll close by reporting what the director and actresses said about this scene (I prefer to leave the original in German):

Ute Wieland: "Wir haben Teile der Szene mit Bodydoubles gedreht, die Gegenschüsse auf die vierzehnjährigen Mädchen dann ohne Männer mit Doubles, was natürlich prekär war, da man, wie das beim Sex so üblich ist, dieselben Bewegungen und den gleichen Rhythmus abnehmen musste. "
(https://www.studiomitte.de/wp-content/u ... uction.pdf)

Emily Kusche: "In der Szene, in der wir mit den Freiern schlafen, hatten wir Doubles. Das war schon sehr durchdacht. Klar hatten wir ein bisschen Bammel vor der Szene, in der wir nackt den Liebeszauber tanzen, aber im Endeffekt habe ich mich ziemlich darauf gefreut. Wir hätten aber auch jederzeit sagen können, dass uns etwas nicht gefällt."
(https://www.focus.de/kultur/medien/kult ... 60718.html)

Flora Thiemann: "Auch die konnte sie wirklich lustig gestalten: Natürlich saß ich nie wirklich auf dem Schoß des Darstellers, der den Freier spielt. Dafür hatten wir einen Coach. Und mit dem hatten wir immer gewitzelt, dass sich das Ganze anfühlen würde wie auf einem Pferd zu sitzen. Bei allem hatte Ute Wieland eine Leichtigkeit ins Spiel gebracht, sodass man vergessen hatte, dass es eigentlich schon ein bisschen grenzwertig ist."
(https://www.prisma.de/news/Tigermilch-D ... n,14833875)

[deadman]

Hi Deadman, this time I disagree with you. In the final part of the scene (see screenshots of the continuous sequence below),

Spoiler: you can see that Emily Kusche was bare-bottomed on top of the actor. [Image] [Image] [Image] [Image] [Image] [Image]

I believe that if they had really used body doubles, the scene would have been more explicit. It is clear to me that they shot the scene with the actresses, taking great care not to show almost any nudity. Then, perhaps after reviewing the film, they realized that even the movement and slight contact between the actresses and the adult actors could have caused problems, so they made up the story that there were body doubles (which are not mentioned in the film credits).

Plenty of roles are uncredited. Sometimes fairly well known actors appear in a cameo without being mentioned in the end credits. Not sure why that happens but it sometimes does.

If you watch the whole scene we do see them in some shots with the guys but never actually on top of them. Flora's double appears to be a little more plump than she is, if you look closely. Had they shot the whole scene straight through with Flora and Emily they would've made sure that was obvious. They always show an actress' face in the same shot with ... other parts of her body, shall we say, and what's going on with them, when a scene is genuine. Going out of their way to avoid that is a sure sign they used a double.

The only way to be absolutely 100% certain of course would be to view the raw footage. Sadly, I don't have that on my hard drive. Word to the wise: we should probably not continue this discussion here. Last time we started getting too explicit a whole series of posts got nuked.