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by Rich_Visiting »
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Can be moved / deleted if felt off topic, personally I find this stuff interesting.
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by Ziggy Plock »
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I don't know. This is that old "Catcher in the Rye" delusion: a person, in order to hide certain bad urges, lies to everyone, possibly himself too, that he wants to protect children.Rich_Visiting wrote:This is an interesting group, no children in the videos but they generally sing about conspiracies, many involving children...
(...) personally I find this stuff interesting.
No disrespect, but what exactly are you [REQ]uesting?Rich_Visiting wrote: personally I find this stuff interesting.
Yeah...Ziggy Plock wrote:I mean ... PIZZAGATE .... come on!
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by Ziggy Plock »
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What;s that?pistachio wrote: Not judging but I dunno how this can be here and Torsten Gems can't.
Eh.
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by Rich_Visiting »
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No ed2k link.pistachio wrote:No disrespect, but what exactly are you [REQ]uesting?Rich_Visiting wrote: personally I find this stuff interesting.
Define "bad". Well, of course some people are delusional, but at the end of the day society determines 'right' from 'wrong'. This, since deviation from societal norms is what generally causes hurt / pain. That is, the notion that your life did not extend to a specific path because of some incident. But that does not mitigate from the fact that the harm is done.Ziggy Plock wrote:I don't know. This is that old "Catcher in the Rye" delusion: a person, in order to hide certain bad urges, lies to everyone, possibly himself too, that he wants to protect children.
I mean ... PIZZAGATE .... come on!
Not sure what you are saying, there is a thread and the content is listed at imdb, so gtg. But the rules here have tightened. Not sure why you would bring it up in the music section.pistachio wrote: Not judging but I dunno how this can be here and Torsten Gems can't.
Eh.
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by Ziggy Plock »
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Wasn't talking about THAT specifically. Speaking more plainly then: In "Catcher in the Rye", J.D. Salinger, in his "Holden Caulfield " persona, says that his deepest desire is to protect children, he describes this metaphorically as him being in a field of rye (= some type of corn, wheat, grain, whatever), while the kids are laughing and playing but are at risk of going over a cliff. Now, he then wants to be the one person who protects the kids from doing that, he wants to catch them before they go over that cliff, to their harm. And since Salingers biography indicates he had a preference for younger and younger women .... well.Rich_Visiting wrote:Define "bad". Well, of course some people are delusional, but at the end of the day society determines 'right' from 'wrong'. This, since deviation from societal norms is what generally causes hurt / pain. That is, the notion that your life did not extend to a specific path because of some incident. But that does not mitigate from the fact that the harm is done.Ziggy Plock wrote:I don't know. This is that old "Catcher in the Rye" delusion: a person, in order to hide certain bad urges, lies to everyone, possibly himself too, that he wants to protect children.
I mean ... PIZZAGATE .... come on!
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by Rich_Visiting »
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Interesting points. I wouldn't think too much into it (nor the other stuff you mentioned), it's just music (and life)Ziggy Plock wrote:[
Wasn't talking about THAT specifically. Speaking more plainly then: In "Catcher in the Rye", J.D. Salinger, in his "Holden Caulfield " persona, says that his deepest desire is to protect children, he describes this metaphorically as him being in a field of rye (= some type of corn, wheat, grain, whatever), while the kids are laughing and playing but are at risk of going over a cliff. Now, he then wants to be the one person who protects the kids from doing that, he wants to catch them before they go over that cliff, to their harm. And since Salingers biography indicates he had a preference for younger and younger women .... well.
Also, Phoebe, his sister.
Many, many people who have harmed kids claim they did it to "protect" kids, but actually hurt them. Latest examples are the republikkan govs of Arizona and Florida, DeSantis with all their anti-gay laws. Bet you 10 to 1, some LBGT kid is gonna off her/himself because of these laws. Not saying they are predators or some such, but they are child harmers for their own personal political gain.
All this is to say that people who nowadays are talking about conspiracies involving abused kids, especially when they invoke a boogeyman of Big Bad Government, are most likely NOT doing that to actually protect kids, but are most likely have mental health issues of some kind, or doing out greed and thirst for power. Like Joe Rogan.
