Cinema, progressivism and politically correct; The extinction of OT movies.

[Airwolf]

I wrote this article for Rich from what I saw, he is the only member who has a position on some issues that are discussed in FLM.

The first thing is that there are no conspiracies or anything like that, only a minority that lives thinking that man never went to the moon or there never was a World War II for this case, I don't think the show is considered child labor the show also needs children like the elderly if he art, sports, even modeling admire talent more than anything else, although theorists say the powerful also use children.

There is this great difference between Europe and the USA, I said before, these are art and not exploitation, as happened to Sally Mann, her works were merely artistic, it is the same with cinema, a story like Houndog can always be told because violence should not always be shown graphically (Dakota was never naked and the rest was the facial expression) for me I would like them to make history about those realities even if some don't want to do it.

[Tiny Blondie]

"There is this great difference between Europe and the USA", there "was" would be more correct. We have been ideologically invaded, poisoned, with no antidote found so far.

[Rich_Visiting]

I wrote this article for Rich from what I saw, he is the only member who has a position on some issues that are discussed in FLM.

You miswrote discussed for discontinued lol

The first thing is that there are no conspiracies or anything like that, only a minority that lives thinking that man never went to the moon

Well, actually...

There is this great difference between Europe and the USA, I said before, these are art and not exploitation, as happened to Sally Mann, her works were merely artistic, it is the same with cinema, a story like Houndog can always be told because violence should not always be shown graphically (Dakota was never naked and the rest was the facial expression) for me I would like them to make history about those realities even if some don't want to do it.

I agree that Sally Mann's work was very beautiful, and it was an appreciation of youth and life.

But at the same time, in a sense, you are taking about documentation of reality. This is kind of really interesting, and IMO it can only be for one of two reasons. First, increasing the awareness of what has/is happened/happening to more normalise things. That is, to take some satisfaction in people knowing that this attraction is out there and these actions happen. Second, preservation is really at the heart of gl; to see and experience the life of the girl, and what she has experienced - the more exclusive the better. Then to store it collectively, not the best idea and to the demise of many.

So, maybe it is an awareness issue you are refering to, but I don't know. It's good to question frustration sometimes. IMO.

[Sully23]

I agree times change the world changes and society changes but in reality we are headed back 200 years.

[Davros6]

I agree times change the world changes and society changes but in reality we are headed back 200 years.

Hopefully that means sooner or later things will be like they were in 70s and 80s again let's just hope it's sooner rather than later.

[Stiorra]

Call my dumb, but what is OT please?

[mgray]

I know this is an old thread but since it was bumped I thought I'd share my thought. I consider myself to have many progressive values although I've personally retired from obsessing about divisive politics. In terms of US id consider myself an old school liberal which used to be opposite to the religious right in the US. It bums me out to see that side also adopt pro censorship positions, so now both sides are pro censorship about different topics but both tend to agree there are ppl waiting to snatch their children up around every corner despite the greatest threat remains close friends and family (if there is evidence to the contrary please share, im always open to being wrong.)

All that's to say, art is the thing I personally value the most in this world. Self expression is the most human thing we create and we determine the value of. Its not like food or Healthcare, things we all objectively need, there are no shortage of ppl who go through life with a very low, passive engagement with art, which is exactly why it needs extra protection, because there are absolutely people who will tailor whats allowed to their own personal worldview because they simply don't see that same value of all people having the right to self expression.

So to be clear I think there is value in films with a liberal slant, a right wing slant, a religious or non religious slant. All of it has value because at the core is human self expression and there's nothing you can learn more about the human experience than through the art we create. When we put limitations on that it is a limitation on how we can express ourselves, and that's why I think there should be a very high threshold for what's allowed in all mediums of art, my line has always been obvious and intentional direct physical or psychological damage without consent. I'm pretty firm on this but I'm always open to hearing other argument.

[Night457]

Call my dumb, but what is OT please?

OT stands for "on topic" and the term has been used in different ways here. Technically, a movie is "on topic" for FLM if it focuses on children. This includes family-friendly child adventure stories like "Goonies" or "Spy Kids". OT is also used to refer to nudity or sexual situations in movies. "Pretty Baby" with Brooke Shields fits all usages of the term.

[Sully23]

I know this is an old thread but since it was bumped I thought I'd share my thought.

In my opinion the thread does not seem old, we live it now perhaps where we ask ourselves why not to make a remake of Piccole Labbra or Taxi Driver and the answer you will know it (better that there is not)

To me to see that the country of the 50 United States has many things that I really detest but it is not necessary to get into its politics because it is prohibited, the last events make see it is a country in decadence it is going to go straight to the abyss if it is not self-corrected.

[mgray]

I can certainly see that perspective for a variety of reasons but like you said that's kinda going into a politics territory which would understandably offend some ppl and divide this lovely community and I appreciate how we all mostly get along despite our differences here so I'll just leave it at that.