You'd be getting a pretty nasty 'Soap Opera' effect @120fps. I think 30fps max is best for films. More isn't always betterjustcuriouskid wrote: Sun Feb 09, 2025 9:30 am But for a few high-quality and detailed works, I definitely support the better experience brought by 4K/up-to-120fps/HDR, etc.
Just wondering, is the 4K UHD version welcome?
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Re: Just wondering, is the 4K UHD version welcome?
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In fact, it varies from person to person.thecyanray wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 7:29 pm You'd be getting a pretty nasty 'Soap Opera' effect @120fps. I think 30fps max is best for films. More isn't always better![]()
A lot of people like the amazing feeling brought by 4K/120FPS.
Re: Just wondering, is the 4K UHD version welcome?
I don't have anything to play 4k with, and my eyes aren't too good anymore anyway.
On my projector a 480p without noise and and good color contrast sometimes look better than 1080p upscale with compression artefacts.
On my projector a 480p without noise and and good color contrast sometimes look better than 1080p upscale with compression artefacts.
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Is there a preferred target compression ratio or file size? I have a few films I've up-scaled to 4K now that I'm happy to share but I usually rip/upscale at a higher quality as that works best for my media server and TV setup. As a result the files tend to be large (~30Gb). Would people still be interested?
Re: Just wondering, is the 4K UHD version welcome?
I would welcome thatTheProjector1979 wrote: Wed Apr 02, 2025 7:22 am Is there a preferred target compression ratio or file size? I have a few films I've up-scaled to 4K now that I'm happy to share but I usually rip/upscale at a higher quality as that works best for my media server and TV setup. As a result the files tend to be large (~30Gb). Would people still be interested?
Re: Just wondering, is the 4K UHD version welcome?
I'm interested but emule is not good for very large files. If you use h264 codec for 4k movies the files will be too large, a waste of space. For recoded hd/uhd I prefer modern codec, at least h265. Then 6-12GB is often enough for 4k movies. But if you use h265 or av1 codec I think many will complain about that.TheProjector1979 wrote: Wed Apr 02, 2025 7:22 am Is there a preferred target compression ratio or file size? I have a few films I've up-scaled to 4K now that I'm happy to share but I usually rip/upscale at a higher quality as that works best for my media server and TV setup. As a result the files tend to be large (~30Gb). Would people still be interested?
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Re: Just wondering, is the 4K UHD version welcome?
I think 4K files should be at least 10 GB for a 2 hour movie. I do not have any technical reasons for that choice! It is based simply on finding smaller 4K encodes and not seeing any improvement over a good 1080p file. However, I must admit that I personally have pulled back on downloading many large files because of lack of storage space. So take my opinion with a grain (or a big hunk) of salt! I am not really the right audience.
Skalman is absolutely right that H265 is ideal for 4K. Movies on 4K disks are already coded in H265/HEVC anyway. Using H264 would be going backwards in quality and compression! (I am only familiar with AV1 from some YouTube videos.)
I think that if someone can not play H265 codec then they also may not be equipped for 4K playback in general? I mean, they could play a H264 file that was "4K" but their monitor/TV would not actually show 4K quality, just 1080p. So they might as well get a 1080p version instead. If they want the highest quality image, then they should upgrade the equipment too.
What I don't understand is the 480p files I find that are encoded in H265 to try to make them as small as possible! As far as I am concerned, 4K demands H265 and SD demands H264 (or older!). Flip a coin for 1080p.
Maybe some day we will get Internet speeds in TB/s, hard drives in the PB range... and files that are so efficiently compressed that a 2-hour 4K UHD movie with Atmos audio would only be about 700 KB.
But not yet.
Skalman is absolutely right that H265 is ideal for 4K. Movies on 4K disks are already coded in H265/HEVC anyway. Using H264 would be going backwards in quality and compression! (I am only familiar with AV1 from some YouTube videos.)
I think that if someone can not play H265 codec then they also may not be equipped for 4K playback in general? I mean, they could play a H264 file that was "4K" but their monitor/TV would not actually show 4K quality, just 1080p. So they might as well get a 1080p version instead. If they want the highest quality image, then they should upgrade the equipment too.
What I don't understand is the 480p files I find that are encoded in H265 to try to make them as small as possible! As far as I am concerned, 4K demands H265 and SD demands H264 (or older!). Flip a coin for 1080p.
Maybe some day we will get Internet speeds in TB/s, hard drives in the PB range... and files that are so efficiently compressed that a 2-hour 4K UHD movie with Atmos audio would only be about 700 KB.