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Re: [REL] Ben Loke'ah Bat AKA Boy Takes Girl (1982) [Israel]

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:56 am
by pillowbaker
I'm curious, sorry if this is off topic a bit. I see some mentions on the board about wrong frame rates that come about during ripping/encoding, leading me to assume there's more to making a higher quality video file than giving a higher resolution and video bitrate. What's going on here with a 30fps vs another fps? And how do you avoid making the same mistake?

Re: [REL] Ben Loke'ah Bat AKA Boy Takes Girl (1982) [Israel]

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 3:28 am
by pistachio
pillowbaker wrote:I'm curious, sorry if this is off topic a bit. I see some mentions on the board about wrong frame rates that come about during ripping/encoding, leading me to assume there's more to making a higher quality video file than giving a higher resolution and video bitrate. What's going on here with a 30fps vs another fps? And how do you avoid making the same mistake?
It's as simple as using the original frame rate when rendering a video. I guess some people don't realize when reencoding that their settings don't match.

Unless you're adding frames with AI. But that's something else.

Re: [REL] Ben Loke'ah Bat AKA Boy Takes Girl (1982) [Israel]

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:02 am
by pillowbaker
Thanks for that fast reply, pistachio! What happens to the video itself when improper frame rate is the wrong one encoded into the file?

By the way, thank you ghost for the upgraded video quality here. I am gonna try your file!

Re: [REL] Ben Loke'ah Bat AKA Boy Takes Girl (1982) [Israel]

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:10 am
by pistachio
Yes. I've been enjoying a lot of these upscales ('specially Wrony). Thanks ghost. <3

Re: [REL] Ben Loke'ah Bat AKA Boy Takes Girl (1982) [Israel]

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:20 am
by deadman
pillowbaker wrote:Thanks for that fast reply, pistachio! What happens to the video itself when improper frame rate is the wrong one encoded into the file?
Think of it this way. Suppose the original source has a framerate of 24 fps. If you rip it at 48 fps, all the program does is double up each frame and play the video at twice the original speed. The result looks the same. But if you rip it with a framerate of, say, 30 fps, only 6 additional frames can be added total (per second). So one out of every four gets doubled, the rest stay single. That barely detectable hesitation at each doubled frame results in a slightly glitchy looking, jerky video that can be maddening to watch.

Re: [REL] Ben Loke'ah Bat AKA Boy Takes Girl (1982) [Israel]

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 4:08 pm
by ghost
Well explained, deadman. ;)

I found the source of the 1080p Web-Rip: https://jfc.org.il/movie/47432-2/ ...and somehow, I managed to get the movie! :P

I seems that they made it from the old original film material. It has a lot of scratches in the picture, but it's "real" HD with better colors. The audio is hebrew (I never liked this silly English dubbing).

Some stills:

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Re: [REL] Ben Loke'ah Bat AKA Boy Takes Girl (1982) [Israel]

Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 7:45 pm
by popdrome
yeah that's very well explained, would you believe I even got this on 29,97 versus a 30 fps? The simple explanation would be at every final frames I would get a hiccup of (almost) 1 frame - huh, you would see a scene not completing every second..Unless you'd approach that with dividing every scene by more particles and dividing it with relative information.. that's not how that works. Of course there are ways of dealing with that. Adobe Premiere can do that, as well as Davinci Resolve, but that can turn fruit into vegetables!

Re: [REL] Ben Loke'ah Bat AKA Boy Takes Girl (1982) [Israel]

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2022 4:42 am
by pillowbaker
Thank you deadman, ghost and popdrome for taking the time to explain this to me (even if dividing particles and relative information may go over my head at first). I wonder if this was what causes the the occasional screen tearing that I would see on some of the older streams of SD material on a streaming service. It was indeed distracting.

Thanks for another edition of the upgrade outta-my-hat, mr. ghost!

Re: [REL] Ben Loke'ah Bat AKA Boy Takes Girl (1982) [Israel]

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 7:18 am
by ghost
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Re: [REL] Ben Loke'ah Bat AKA Boy Takes Girl (1982) [Israel]

Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2025 10:17 pm
by ghost
The footage of the WEB-DL was badly damaged. They scanned the negative in Full HD, but didn't clean the film from scratches, dust, and dirt.
I wonder how they could release the film like that. Maybe they didn't have the money for it.

Well, I did the work now and cleaned the movie.

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