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Re: [REL] In the Realm of the Senses (1976)
Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 9:56 pm
by idler
That's the normal DVD size, and you better get used to it cause more and more BlueRay discs will be ripped. Gee, even my USB stick has 32 GB! Go and buy a mobile HD.
Re: [REL] In the Realm of the Senses (1976)
Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 10:12 pm
by Rich
idler wrote:
That's the normal DVD size, and you better get used to it cause more and more BlueRay discs will be ripped. Gee, even my USB stick has 32 GB! Go and buy a mobile HD.
BlueRay what's that?

i still don't understand how say a movie like Pretty Baby, is filmed and released on VHS, then the DVD comes out... and then BlueRay?? So how do they get that quality increase? The original film is shot in a certain quality, so why couldn't that quality be held on a VHS tape? and so to get a higher quality DVD / Blue Ray do they go back to the originally shot film??

technology

Re: [REL] In the Realm of the Senses (1976)
Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 10:35 pm
by idler
Optical storage is one of the most effective methods available, ask every spy. Film resolution is measured in double lines per mm (normally about 250); that means one 24x18 frame of a 35mm film has approximately 100 million pixels. Still a lot to do for compression software and electronic cameras...

Re: [REL] In the Realm of the Senses (1976)
Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 10:41 pm
by Rich
so it's all to do with compression

i wonder how much digital information the originally shot film holds, or maybe i've got the wrong end of the stick... no matter thanks for the HQ release idler

Re: [REL] In the Realm of the Senses (1976)
Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 3:00 am
by FLL
Rich wrote:so it's all to do with compression

i wonder how much digital information the originally shot film holds, or maybe i've got the wrong end of the stick...
There are two reasons for the increasing quality of digital media. The quality and capabilities of underlying media is the first and biggest. The physical size of your 30GB disk probably isn't much different than my 1000GB drive, but in the past 10 years they have developed the technology to reliably write and read 30 times the information. The second reason is better compression, which makes little difference to raw data on your hard drive but increases the visual quality of movies stored on your drive. With better compression the same quality can be achieved in less space.
A Blu-Ray disk can hold about 6 times the raw data of a standard DVD. (In great part due to the shorter wavelength of Blue lasers vs. the Red lasers used for standard DVDs.) Blu-Ray uses the newest MPEG4 compression, such as that used in many .MKVs. They take advantage of all this extra capability by filling it up with greatly increased resolution and quality.
The original film from the old days is analog, not digital, obviously. The film would have had enough quality that it would still look good when blown up enormously to be projected on a movie theater screen. They re-digitize it again for each new generation of media (VHS->DVD->BLU). The main limiting factor has always been the capacity of the media.
Re: [REL] In the Realm of the Senses (1976)
Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 10:49 am
by Debaser
The real reason is that the industry can rake in more money from mugs that feel pressured into splashing out more cash on equipment in order to view such stupid file sizes, because some people are just never satisfied with the perfectly good video qualities with have already.
Thank god for software that can convert silly file sizes
Thankfully it will all come to a head when people have to start concerning themselves with more pressing issues than perfect image quality, like where will I find food to eat now there are no supermarkets.
Re: [REL] In the Realm of the Senses (1976)
Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 12:00 pm
by Rich
FLL wrote: The film would have had enough quality that it would still look good when blown up enormously to be projected on a movie theater screen. They re-digitize it again for each new generation of media (VHS->DVD->BLU). The main limiting factor has always been the capacity of the media.
ahh of course!
Debaser wrote:The real reason is that the industry can rake in more money from mugs that feel pressured into splashing out more cash on equipment in order to view such stupid file sizes, because some people are just never satisfied with the perfectly good video qualities with have already.
i agree, i can enjoy a good movie on holiday on an old b&w tv lol but then again a really crisp shot of some scenes would be interesting

Re: [REL] In the Realm of the Senses (1976)
Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 1:51 pm
by Quickone
wow 4.3gb that would take forever on eMule

I think the copy I have (somewhere) is good enough.
Re: [REL] In the Realm of the Senses (1976)
Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 2:38 pm
by idler
quickone wrote:wow 4.3gb that would take forever on eMule

I think the copy I have (somewhere) is good enough.
Nope. I startet Sunday evening. After 1 day 16:50 hr, I am exactly at 1/2. Not only the file sizes are increasing, but the download speed, too!
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Re: [REL] In the Realm of the Senses (1976)
Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 4:54 am
by wafaschaanti
It is not OT (even with a few children) but the movie is magnificent, Thank You!