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Re: [REL] Trocadéro bleu citron (1978)

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:05 pm
by Phuzzy4242
Thanks, meeno.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078419
http://www.rarefilmfinder.com/showfilm.php?id=14134

Re: [REL] Trocadéro bleu citron (1978)

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 7:18 pm
by ghost
1080p AI upscale:

[Image]

You can switch between French and German audio:
Like this post to see ed2k links  [2.80 GiB]

English subtitles:
Like this post to see ed2k links  [76.3 KiB]

Re: [REL] Trocadéro bleu citron (1978)

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 7:44 pm
by Night457
This was such a fun film! Definitely time to upgrade my French subtitled DVD. Thank you ghost!

Re: [REL] Trocadéro bleu citron (1978)

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:04 pm
by DreamScape
ghost wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 7:18 pm 1080p AI upscale:
I posted a 1080p webl-dl here
https://the.nextthing.club/showthread.p ... =tt0078419

:D

Re: [REL] Trocadéro bleu citron (1978)

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:14 pm
by ghost
I posted a 1080p webl-dl here
:o :o :o I didn't know that it even existed! I'll check it. Thanks, DreamScape.

Re: [REL] Trocadéro bleu citron (1978)

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:24 pm
by ghost
I got it and it somehow also looks like an upscale from SD. Now it's up to you guys... Which version looks better? :think

Re: [REL] Trocadéro bleu citron (1978)

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 9:55 am
by Night457
DreamScape wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:04 pm I posted a 1080p webl-dl here
https://the.nextthing.club/showthread.p ... =tt0078419
Thank you DreamScape! Jdownloader here I come ... workupload is new to me, maybe I should try that for my own uploads sometime ...
ghost wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:24 pm I got it and it somehow also looks like an upscale from SD. Now it's up to you guys... Which version looks better? :think
What, you won't even do the work for us by posting matching screenshots? :mrgreen: :P

EDIT: Aha, I see now! Different runtimes. Not so easy to match screenshots ... I will see what I can manage ...

Re: [REL] Trocadéro bleu citron (1978)

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:43 am
by Night457
Comparisons -

(Note: some of the download sources [dosya] at the.next.thing appear to be dead. I successfully downloaded the workupload links.)
DreamScape's the.next.thing file specifications:
Spoiler:

General
Unique ID : 42958488954232227321506647865984636397 (0x20518107BBDA497BFEEA102E827D55ED)
Complete name : Trocadero.bleu.citron.1978.1080p.iT.WEB-DL.AAC2.0.H.264-KicWEB.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 4 / Version 2
File size : 3.17 GiB
Duration : 1 h 26 min
Overall bit rate : 5 243 kb/s
Encoded date : UTC 2022-08-28 08:23:03
Writing application : mkvmerge v70.0.0 ('Caught A Lite Sneeze') 64-bit
Writing library : libebml v1.4.2 + libmatroska v1.6.4
Cover : Yes
Attachments : cover.jpg

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4
Format settings : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, Reference fra : 4 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 1 h 26 min
Bit rate : 5 142 kb/s
Width : 1 784 pixels
Height : 1 072 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 5:3
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 24.000 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.112
Stream size : 3.11 GiB (98%)
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC LC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID : A_AAC-2
Duration : 1 h 26 min
Bit rate : 99.0 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Delay relative to video : -42 ms
Stream size : 61.3 MiB (2%)
Language : French
Default : Yes
Forced : No

Text #1
ID : 3
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Duration : 1 h 25 min
Bit rate : 52 b/s
Count of elements : 1079
Stream size : 32.8 KiB (0%)
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No

Text #2
ID : 4
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Duration : 1 h 26 min
Bit rate : 57 b/s
Count of elements : 1185
Stream size : 36.4 KiB (0%)
Title : SDH
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No

Menu
00:00:00.000 : en:1
00:07:12.291 : en:2
00:14:47.541 : en:3
00:23:38.624 : en:4
00:31:00.832 : en:5
00:39:44.165 : en:6
00:47:20.373 : en:7
00:55:30.248 : en:8
01:03:45.956 : en:9
01:13:15.039 : en:10
01:20:05.330 : en:11
ghost's FLM file specifications:
Spoiler:

General
Unique ID : 312905527289119080532307951048915147059 (0xEB6769981861A36034348951DB9BD933)
Complete name : Trocadéro bleu citron (1978).1080p.ger-fre.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 4 / Version 2
File size : 2.80 GiB
Duration : 1 h 24 min
Overall bit rate : 4 764 kb/s
Encoded date : UTC 2022-09-15 17:51:32
Writing application : mkvmerge v70.0.0 ('Caught A Lite Sneeze') 64-bit
Writing library : libebml v1.4.2 + libmatroska v1.6.4

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L5
Format settings : CABAC / 5 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, Reference fra : 5 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 1 h 23 min
Bit rate : 4 412 kb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 25.000 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.085
Stream size : 2.57 GiB (92%)
Writing library : x264 core 161
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=8 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / lookahead_threads=2 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=2 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=192 / keyint_min=19 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=50 / rc=abr / mbtree=1 / bitrate=4412 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=5882 / vbv_bufsize=8825 / nal_hrd=none / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709

Audio #1
ID : 2
Format : AAC LC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID : A_AAC-2
Duration : 1 h 24 min
Bit rate : 192 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 117 MiB (4%)
Language : German
Default : Yes
Forced : No

Audio #2
ID : 3
Format : AAC LC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID : A_AAC-2
Duration : 1 h 24 min
Bit rate : 192 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 116 MiB (4%)
Language : French
Default : No
Forced : No
The subtitle translations are different.

(DreamScape's has both internal optional subtitles and a downloadable external file. I am comparing with the external file.)
Sample DreamScape's subtitle:
Spoiler:

570
00:44:10,042 --> 00:44:13,944
Listen, when a man and a woman
love each other...

571
00:44:14,125 --> 00:44:15,793
I know all that.

572
00:44:15,979 --> 00:44:18,332
Then you know that they
consummate their love.

573
00:44:18,438 --> 00:44:20,686
Yes, but I've plenty of time
for consummating.

574
00:44:20,792 --> 00:44:25,255
Very well. And apart from
the pleasure of being together.

575
00:44:25,417 --> 00:44:29,209
The man and woman find the
fulfillment of their love in the child.

576
00:44:29,375 --> 00:44:31,876
I don't want one at the moment.

577
00:44:32,042 --> 00:44:35,336
You've reassured me.
That's all I wanted to know.
Sample ghost's subtitle:
Spoiler:

593
00:42:37,550 --> 00:42:40,201
When a man and woman falls in love...

594
00:42:41,287 --> 00:42:42,287
I know what happens.

595
00:42:43,100 --> 00:42:45,628
You know that they will "make love"?

596
00:42:45,652 --> 00:42:47,817
I will have plenty of time
to "make love".

597
00:42:47,841 --> 00:42:52,360
Very well. Until then, you
can play with her in the way

598
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,156
a child would normally show
his affection.

599
00:42:56,180 --> 00:42:57,316
That's not enough.

600
00:42:58,500 --> 00:43:01,750
You reassure me.
That's all I wanted to know.
[Holy crap, those are some different translations!]

I matched the screenshots as best I could, but they are not exact

LEFT: DreamScape screenshots.__RIGHT: ghost screenshots
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All I can definitely say is that the young couple ARE SO DAMN CUTE! I would like to watch this next, but everyone else is sleeping and I can't blast the groovy music.

Re: [REL] Trocadéro bleu citron (1978)

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:51 pm
by Zorijer
One of these seems either stretched or squeezed horizontally... Might be useful to compare an object that should have the same height and width.

Re: [REL] Trocadéro bleu citron (1978)

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 6:32 pm
by ghost
What, you won't even do the work for us by posting matching screenshots? :mrgreen: :P
Sometimes I am lazy, too. ;)
Aha, I see now! Different runtimes
Yes, my source was the 25 fps PAL DVD, Dreamscape's web-dl is running with 24 fps.
Holy crap, those are some different translations!
I just got the subs from opensubtitles.org. Interesting, that there are different transltions. :o

Thanks for making the caps, Night457. I think you only can see the difference on a big TV display.
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