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Rich_Visiting wrote:Wow, really impressive! I wonder what conclusions, based on similar trends, can be made from the data? That would be the next step.
IMHO how many likes the best link in a thread got would be a better indication of popularity.
E.g. ghost's release of The Trouble With Being Born got 53 likes (so far). https://www.first-loves.com/forums/view ... =20#p84168
Despite my lowID issues, I've uploaded 36.66 GB of this file alone. Muidhond with 23 GB uploaded is my second most requested file.
Hmm, in my experience "likes" have always been subjective, and often influenced not by content. But it is nice to give credit for a good post. "Sharing" also has some very interesting psychology in, mostly, respect of ones own self worth. But who knows. Your stats are commendable, it is good to share
The main reason "Likes" were implemented in the first place wasn't to judge the popularity of a film but to encourage people to register as members and participate instead of just leech. Sadly, most still never participate - no posts. no contributions, and usually don't share what they've taken. Sad.
Phuzzy4242 wrote:The main reason "Likes" were implemented in the first place wasn't to judge the popularity of a film but to encourage people to register as members and participate instead of just leech. Sadly, most still never participate - no posts. no contributions, and usually don't share what they've taken. Sad.
It would be a simple solution to remove access to ed2k links for non-contributors, even restrict access to the forum for non-posters. Something to consider. From what I've seen in my brief visits back here there are not so many regular posters, but yet the post views are very high. This suggests a demand for the information here. If a restricted forum resulted in fewer posts and contributions then I could understand some hesitance, but it seems like there are only things to gain from requiring contribution from a member before they can view the posts here. just my thoughts.
Sorry, Rich, but I have to respectfully disagree. FLM will NOT gain new members by requiring contributions first. Particularly if they can not even VIEW the posts?!??? "Oh yeah, we gots some really great stuff here, give us summa yours first." What would bring people here in the first place? That is the kind of site I would leave in a moment and never return. I am not going to say what kind of sites use that tactic. I know I read the posts on this site for some time before I signed up so I could download, and then when I felt confident enough that I could contribute something valuable I began uploading. I had not even heard of eMule before I discovered FLM 1.5 years ago, so there was the technical barrier to overcome.
I am sure many people do not post because they feel they have nothing important to say. I know I feel kinda stupid when all I can say is "Great movie, thanks." (But I do it anyway; I am starting to become shameless in my stupidity, and saying thanks is nice if not brilliant.) How many people do not post because they are unsure of their command of English? I am so very glad FLM has such an incredibly diverse international membership, but I wonder how many stay silent for that reason. There is of course Google Translate, but if you do not know the end-result language you have no idea how good the translation is. I would hate to try to post on a Russian or Chinese site with Google Translate, my only language being English.
I certainly understand the desire to get more people to contribute. I have to say, the Admins here are incredibly supportive and encouraging, and the other senior members open and accepting. There are plenty of online forums that I read but do not contribute to because they are overrun with obnoxious brats. FLM is fantastic. It is unfortunate that more people do not get involved, but I am afraid your suggestions would only keep people away, not bring them in.
Oh, BTW I should say to YOU as an FLM Founding Father, THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!
Sheesh, now I have to feel guilty that I have only contributed subtitles for awhile, no videos ...
Requiring contributions how? By money payment? LOTS of headaches, I certainly don't want to have to handle it, and the members won't like it. Why should they release films if they have to pay too? Besides, you could just search eMule for a film's title after reading about it here - no need to become a member that way.
There are just a few people contributing right now, and charging a fee would ensure that number never gets larger. If you mean contributing more films, that would be nearly impossible for most people, and lead to lots of junk being posted just to meet the quota. Making FLM all private, invitation only, would kill it faster than anything. I can live with people not contributing so long as they aren't trolls and troublemakers. Filthy user names or ones that are just random characters get zapped.
The leechers aren't really hurting us, it's just that a few of us are pulling all the weight, but that's the way it's always been, except there are far fewer of us than in FLM's first years. We're just grateful for the ones who give as well as take, even if it's merely sharing what you've downloaded.
Not necessarily contributing material, but posting a thank you or perhaps some other related discussion in the General forum. By getting people involved at the lower levels I think this would bring about more material contributions further down the line. But you both have fair points and I'm more than happy to see FLM alive and well. Thanks again to you guys!
Rich_Visiting wrote:Not necessarily contributing material, but posting a thank you or perhaps some other related discussion in the General forum. By getting people involved at the lower levels I think this would bring about more material contributions further down the line. But you both have fair points and I'm more than happy to see FLM alive and well. Thanks again to you guys!
I don't see how something like that could be enforced, and 'coercing' participation, especially insincere 'thanks' is sort of repulsive to me. I'm open to suggestions, but at least for now I don't see us changing much.
Rich_Visiting wrote:Not necessarily contributing material, but posting a thank you or perhaps some other related discussion in the General forum. By getting people involved at the lower levels I think this would bring about more material contributions further down the line. But you both have fair points and I'm more than happy to see FLM alive and well. Thanks again to you guys!
I don't see how something like that could be enforced, and 'coercing' participation, especially insincere 'thanks' is sort of repulsive to me. I'm open to suggestions, but at least for now I don't see us changing much.
Set ed2k links only visible to those with more than 5 posts. Even, consider setting the forum post visibility only visible to those with more than 5 posts. I agree with you that establishing a user base on false gratitude is far from the best way to go. The idea would be for more exclusivity, in the presence of quite obvious demand. Then again, having such a forum somewhat "private" can also bring about some suspicion, and it is not also great to "censor" information. I guess it's a fine balance.
My comments were based on the premise of a significant reduction in contribution from members here, as you implied, in that case there would be little to lose.
Just some ideas, again, the forum seems to be working really well at present so I agree that there is perhaps not a need for this change.
Rich_Visiting wrote:Set ed2k links only visible to those with more than 5 posts.
Hmm... I'd rather not see any BS posts, made just because they have to post something (we make enough BS posts as it is ).
Most forums show links only to registered members (login or register to view links). I suppose the like post to see links could be upgraded to that. Anyway, I don't think this is a very big deal. I was just curious about the data.
Muidhond with 23 GB uploaded is my second most requested file.
