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You're free to think those sex scenes were real and I'm free to say "these scenes were obviously fake".

I could notice they were wearing protectives in their skin-tones (which made their legs look thicker) or/and using an older body double. Sometimes their legs looked like plastic legs.

How can you believe such unrealistic sex scenes? The kids didn't even share a real kiss.

You can compare those plastic scenes with the ones in Berlin-winner "Intimacy", and see the huge difference.

I can't believe in a book of fiction... "Whoa I did when I was 11, whoa I am a bad bad girl". Like the teens in social media today. All they try to do is to gain more followers/attraction.

voyagerabba wrote: Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:49 pm Too many emojis...

You're free to think those sex scenes were real and I'm free to say "these scenes were obviously fake".

I could notice they were wearing protectives in their skin-tones (which made their legs look thicker) or/and using an older body double. Sometimes their legs looked like plastic legs.

How can you believe such unrealistic sex scenes? The kids didn't even share a real kiss.

You can compare those plastic scenes with the ones in Berlin-winner "Intimacy", and see the huge difference.

I can't believe in a book of fiction... "Whoa I did when I was 11, whoa I am a bad bad girl". Like the teens in social media today. All they try to do is to gain more followers/attraction.

In Lara's sex scene in the cave, you can clearly see her face as well as her body, some say the girls bodies were quite developed for their age, so therefore body doubles, guess what, some girls can develop earlier, a girl I knew when I was growing up started getting boobs when she was 10.
I think some people are just in denial that girls their age would actually do a film like this.

voyagerabba wrote: Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:49 pm Too many emojis...
You're free to think those sex scenes were real and I'm free to say "these scenes were obviously fake".

Maybe you're right, sex isn't real. If it were real, it would be XXX. I've seen few movies where the actors who performed their scenes were real. Let's suppose that wasn't the case in that movie, even though the contact is too explicit, but you can still argue that in German courts.

Night457 wrote: Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:25 am Oh, Indy...

Could you close this thread? I think it's going too far.

People here are arguing their points but I think everyone is being courteous enough about it, so I do not have a problem with it. There are no childish insults or people stomping away mad with their toys. I do not think anyone is being particularly crude either. These are just normal disagreements. No one has to be convinced by anyone else. Once they have made their points they may choose to "agree to disagree" and simply stop making more posts because they have nothing more to say on the topic. Of course this is something I have tried to tell myself far too many times over the years. For my part I am not going to contribute any more totally off-topic jokes about adult Jackie Chan...

Davros6 wrote: Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:58 pm

voyagerabba wrote: Wed Jun 18, 2025 2:49 pmI could notice they were wearing protectives in their skin-tones (which made their legs look thicker) or/and using an older body double. Sometimes their legs looked like plastic legs.

How can you believe such unrealistic sex scenes? The kids didn't even share a real kiss.

In Lara's sex scene in the cave, you can clearly see her face as well as her body, some say the girls bodies were quite developed for their age, so therefore body doubles, guess what, some girls can develop earlier, a girl I knew when I was growing up started getting boobs when she was 10.
I think some people are just in denial that girls their age would actually do a film like this.

All you have to do is watch it. Both girls were shown in full body shots during their "intimate" scenes so you know it was them. There were no body doubles. No actual sex either, they were just pretending - the camera angle is always such that you can't tell for sure (which is a dead giveaway). Still, you will never see anything like this again with actors so young.

Both Lara and Eva's legs look fine to me. No plastic parts or skin tone matched leggings. And remember this was 1977, so the kind of digital trickery used today in a film like The Trouble with Being Born (2020) simply didn't exist.

I've found (and downloaded) both Eva books - but both are in French, not sure how to translate the whole PDF. Any ideas?
I know there's other scandalous stuff in the book. She befriended a gay boy about 16 when she was 12. They went to some photography exhibition that depicted naked boys. I guess he was somebody that wasn't going to try and proposition her. Think the book says she did everything but sex with him as he couldn't er, maintain himself.
She basically lived independently - going out when she wanted.
She attended discos from the age of 11,12. And at 14 or younger was in a relationship with some 20year old famous woman at the time. I think she's named.
She and a friend prostituted themselves at about age 13 to some foreign businessman - went with him to his hotel room. They were drunk and hanging around Paris. Think on another occasion the police arrested her though.
Her mum set her up with Bouboulon who photographs adolescent girls - flew her out to Ibiza. That was before she was 16.
Sure there's a lot more besides. Pretty insane lifestyle and a pretty shitty mother. But think we knew that!
And school was not impressed with the attention she got. She wasn't going to school from about 13. I think eventually social services were chasing her and her mum and threatening to take her away. In the end I think at 16 she was living with some 28 year old?

Google Translate / Documents will translate uploaded PDFs.

citronleaf wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 1:47 am Google Translate / Documents will translate uploaded PDFs.

there's a 5000 char limit for text translation - and best to not do it logging in.
Was anything equivalent to Subtitle Edit - or a way to trick that to translate a whole book / pdf?

Damn, here I thought I had a good suggestion. Sorry. I admit I have never tried to translate a large PDF such as for a whole book. I would hate to have to upload a few hundred pages a few pages at a time.

Note, the books can be found here - https://annas-archive.org/ - but I think they're only in French.
I see there's a 2019 film from Eva - Une Jeunesse Doree / A Golden Youth.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Une_jeunesse_dor%C3%A9e
Apparantly it's semi auto biographical - set a few years after My Little Princess when she was going to a famous disco, The Palace in Paris. But not sure as not found trailer with subtitles. Not sure the age of the actress playing teenage Eva - but might be of interest to be added?