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Re: [REL] Ferien mit Silvester (1992)

Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:15 pm
by Devil❧
omg wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2016 5:00 am Uncropped video :dance

Ferien mit Silvester (1992).mp4
Re-share? Anyone?

Re: [REL] Ferien mit Silvester (1992)

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:31 pm
by Night457
Devil❧ wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:15 pm
Spoiler:

omg wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2016 5:00 am Uncropped video :dance

Ferien mit Silvester (1992).mp4
Re-share? Anyone?
My download completed a few days ago so I guess yours has also. However, that version is NOT actually uncropped. It has black bars at the top and bottom to give it the apparent 1.361 Aspect Ratio. The image seen is actually 1.78.

I found a 720p 1.78 version from SOMEONE on emule, and it just looks so much better. Check out the top, bottom, left, and right space in the pictures and see they are the same --

First picture, the old omg file.
Second picture, the new 720p file.
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This movie is all new to me but it looks like fun. Thank you to Mr. Anonymous!

720p with German audio
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Re: [REL] Ferien mit Silvester (1992)

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:37 pm
by ghost
SOMEONE
LOL.


...I did my upscale from the cropped version. Seems that I missed the uncropped one. :roll:

Re: [REL] Ferien mit Silvester (1992)

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:12 pm
by Night457
ghost wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:37 pm ...I did my upscale from the cropped version. Seems that I missed the uncropped one. :roll:
No! Don't misunderstand my post. The version at FLM that SAYS it is uncropped is NOT uncropped. Don't bother with it!

Now, if you can find a version expanded to open matte full-frame (such as a 1.33 DVD release) on Usenet or somewhere else then knock yourself out. I did not do any looking beyond FLM and eMule.

Re: [REL] Ferien mit Silvester (1992)

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:19 pm
by ghost
No! Don't misunderstand my post. The version at FLM that SAYS it is uncropped is NOT uncropped. Don't bother with it!
OK. I checked it out. ;) No more work to do. :P

Re: [REL] Ferien mit Silvester (1992)

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:43 pm
by Night457
ghost wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 7:19 pm OK. I checked it out. ;) No more work to do. :P
Yes, please, thank you, you can stop! For once I would like a chance to actually watch one of your upgrades before you upgrade it again! :lol:

Inconclusive searching and aspect ratio tech:
Spoiler:

I did a general look-around and I only found evidence of a VHS for home media, not a DVD. (That does not mean there was not a DVD, just that I could not find info on one.) I did not specifically look for streaming versions, but apparently it was streaming once at the Austrian site flimmit.at.

The theatrical aspect ratio was 1.66:
https://www.austrianfilms.com/film/ferien_mit_silvester
This means it was matted a little at the top and bottom from the OCN. The 1.78 version we see would be matted just a little sliver more.

The VHS was probably full-frame as was typical. Whether they opened it up to the OCN size or further cropped the 1.66 presentation on the left and right, I don't know.

If it is opened up, how about a 1080p upscale of the original VHS? :roll:

Re: [REL] Ferien mit Silvester (1992)

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 8:15 pm
by pillowbaker
Thank you Night and ghost for the movie! This one looks like fun and has a good response from members here.

Re: [REL] Ferien mit Silvester (1992)

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:00 pm
by Night457
As soon as I logged out of FLM, I made sure to hurry and watch this one before it was too late.

Some of those screenshots in the first post make much more sense to me now, and there were parts that gave me some good laughs.

Silvester graciously offers little Katharina some delicious cold headcheese and beer for her evening meal.
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But she is unenthusiastic about that and instead chooses bread with honey, and milk to drink.
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However, this little boy later on appreciates his beer.
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Re: [REL] Ferien mit Silvester (1992)

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2023 11:54 pm
by mimzy
Night457 wrote: Wed Mar 01, 2023 6:31 pmHowever, that version is NOT actually uncropped. It has black bars at the top and bottom
:huh

cropped = black bars (or more) removed
uncropped = image NOT cropped, i.e. black bars NOT removed

Re: [REL] Ferien mit Silvester (1992)

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2023 12:02 am
by Night457
Sorry, my definition of cropping has always referred to the image of the movie, not the video container. Maybe I was confusing that with "unmatted"! Anyway, I will not get excited about downloading the black bars when the image remains the same, because I am looking to watch the movie image and not the bars around it. The only purpose of black bars is to retain the image aspect ratio in older media formats like non-anamorphic DVD. Modern encoding and VLC eliminates that need.

Whatever anyone's defnition of "cropping", however, the movie image is apparently NOT currently available in 4:3 open matte.