[REL] Stein (1991)

[BugMeNot9999]

I also know that much of how girls are depicted in movies is simple male fantasy. So my saying what a girl character's motivations are may say more about the author's -- or my own as the viewer!

In 2019, a DVD was released containing a long interview with Helga Schütz, director Egon Günther's ex-wife and co-screenwriter of the film. As shown below by the Defa link, she discussed various scenes from the film, saying among other things that "Die Szene mit dem Mädchen in der Badewanne wäre heute so nicht mehr möglich".
(https://www.defa-stiftung.de/filme/film ... a-schuetz/)

Finally, out of curiosity, I discovered that the actress who played Sara, nineteen-year-old Franziska Herold, was then engaged to director Egon Günther, who was 63.
"Und es gab noch einen Dissens mit dem Regisseur . Das Drehbuch sah eine Bettszene vor . Rolf war , das kann ich ja gestehen , ein wenig prüde . So etwas wollte er nicht , er hatte sich zeitlebens vor derartigen Arrangements erfolgreich gedrückt und wollte seine Auffassung nicht mehr korrigieren . Er bestand auf einem Double , zumal es sich bei seiner Film - Partnerin um die 19jährige Freundin Günthers handelte ."
(https://books.google.com/books?id=wEZ4D ... &pg=PA1988)
The two later married.
(https://www.filmschaffende-in-gross-gli ... -guenther/)

[Night457]

Helga Schütz, director Egon Günther's ex-wife and co-screenwriter of the film...
Finally, out of curiosity, I discovered that the actress who played Sara, nineteen-year-old Franziska Herold, was then engaged to director Egon Günther, who was 63.

So maybe I should interpret this movie as the female fantasy (come true in real life) of an old wife who wants her even older husband to get a young girlfriend and later wife so that the old lady was finally safe from his attentions!

[SATA6Gbs]

Glad to hear my input is appreciated! If there are any other specific scenes or lines where you're unsure about the translation, I'd be happy to help, but atm I unfortunately don't have the time to go over the entire movie...

[Moonee]

Just confirming, this is synced to the SRT attachment posted earlier in this thread right?

[Night457]

Probably YES without my confirming it by searching through my old drives. The subtitles were made for a DVDrip and I think there was only the one DVD, so it makes sense...

[yekaterina]

By the way, he is not her father or grandfather. In the movie he is a dirty old man playing with a young girl. (Not exactly a rare thing at FLM.) Oh wait, let me say instead "he is an anti-authoritarian artist-intellectual with great emotional sympathy for young people."

It's a difficult scene to understand depending on which way you look at it, only when I see this girl interrupts them and then later they fight to share the bathtub with 'grandpa' it makes it seem romantic but come on, when I saw it for the first time I thought it was just something innocent if Laura comes and says do you mind if we take a bath? and one supposes that perhaps in that country it is normal, as in Willem Dafoe and the children who accompany him out of urgency keep the water hot, it does not go out of context (perhaps the girls do ask the questions uncomfortable like the one when she saw van damme naked, it is just pure curiosity), in Stein it would not be another Klaus Kinski in which he refused to film a bathtub scene but saw her naked the director asked him to look elsewhere, the context would be that both want to share the bathtub and the other The girl gets jealous because she expected to do it but she got ahead of herself.