[RREL] Les Diables (2002)

[deadman]

Not a problem. Every forum has its own quirks, it takes time to learn them.

If people would start to use Usenet more, you wouldn’t have it reupload so much anymore i know stuff there also still gets dmca‘d from time to time but I haven’t encountered it with your uploads yet so sometimes I just temporarily delete a file on my hdd and get it back later from Usenet.

Most of the movies we share here won't draw a DMCA complaint. If you post a mass marketed film like Avengers Endgame it'll be nuked within days. A movie like this one sticks around indefinitely even when posted in the clear - no encrypted headers and filenames, no passworded rars.

I had a hard drive crash a few years back and did exactly what you say. Recovered files (especially full BDs) from my own Usenet posts. They don't actually have an infinite lifespan but stuff you post there lasts longer than any link on a file sharing website.

[BugMeNot9999]

A few days ago the trial began regarding the allegations against director Christophe Ruggia by Adèle Haenel. During the first hearings, some scenes from the film were shown.

The actress talks about filming “Les Diables”: “Yes, I felt valued, I felt like I had something special, he told me so. I was filmed naked, directed to caress myself on screen... Protected by no one. I wasn't supervised by my family, they weren't there... [Silence] There was a parental laxity, shall we say... The basics of the game were murky and unclear...”

https://www.nouvelobs.com/justice/20241 ... uggia.html


The actress told investigators that these sequences had made her “very uncomfortable”, and described other “violent” scenes, such as the one where she had to dance in front of a prison to shouts of “à poil!” from real inmates. She explained that the director had gradually “isolated” her in a “bubble” on the set, asking her family not to come so as not to distract her.

https://www.francebleu.fr/infos/faits-d ... re-7283457

[David32441]

Not read the article, and going off your comments, and safeguarding aside. You can imagine in a film the defence argument asking the witness. The film was successful was it not? Did it not launch your film career - so did maybe the directors methods work in enhancing the performance? Did you not welcome the attention of being the star of the film at the time? Have you ever had to work a "normal" job since? Did you complain to your parents, an adult, anyone at the time? Did you not see the script first and realise there was nudity, and only now are regretting it? Did your parents or guardian object to the script or scenes at the time? Not many parents/guardians are really leaving their child on a film set, especially a small budget film with challenging material, what was their reason for not attending? Even if the director protested what was their resposne?

[BugMeNot9999]

Not read the article, and going off your comments, and safeguarding aside

I didn't comment, I just translated parts of the article. If you prefer, here they are in French:

L’actrice évoque le tournage du film « les Diables » : « Oui, je me sentais valorisée, j’avais l’impression d’avoir quelque chose de spécial, il me le disait. J’étais filmée nue, dirigée pour me caresser à l’écran… Protégée par personne. Je n’étais pas encadrée par ma famille, ils n’étaient pas là… [Silence] Il y avait un laisser-aller parental, on va dire… Les bases du jeu étaient troubles et floues… »

https://www.nouvelobs.com/justice/20241 ... uggia.html


Aux enquêteurs, l'actrice a raconté que ces séquences l'avaient mise "très mal à l'aise", et décrits d'autres scènes "violentes", comme celle où elle avait dû danser devant une prison sous les cris de "à poil !" de vrais détenus. Elle a expliqué que le réalisateur l'avait progressivement "isolée" dans une "bulle" sur le plateau, demandant à sa famille de ne pas venir pour ne pas la déconcentrer.

https://www.francebleu.fr/infos/faits-d ... re-7283457

[ferdi111]

I don't understand... why one should wait 22 with her case... and not fill it right away or at least when you reach 18 (adult in most countries)

[David32441]

I don't understand... why one should wait 22 with her case... and not fill it right away or at least when you reach 18 (adult in most countries)

you mean 22 years? This was part of the metoo thing. Before that there would have maybe been a fear they'd have just got black-listed by the directors/producers/etc if they spoke out as being "difficult"

[Sully23]

I don't understand... why one should wait 22 with her case... and not fill it right away or at least when you reach 18 (adult in most countries)

Cases like Roman polanski who was thought to be dead but it started me too and the director was practically out of work, the same with David Hamilton and Ivan Noel, they took the easy way out to avoid public scorn.

Some cases may have prescribed but there is worse punishment than losing prestige and reputation like Woody Allen or Roman polanski.

[David32441]

I don't understand... why one should wait 22 with her case... and not fill it right away or at least when you reach 18 (adult in most countries)

Cases like Roman polanski who was thought to be dead but it started me too and the director was practically out of work, the same with David Hamilton and Ivan Noel, they took the easy way out to avoid public scorn.

Some cases may have prescribed but there is worse punishment than losing prestige and reputation like Woody Allen or Roman polanski.

Roman Polanski had a lot of sympathy due to him being a hollocaust survivor + his pregnant wife being murdered in a mass murder by a cult leader - wikipedia it - not nice. I don't think anybody thought Polanski to be dead! He was defended by many in Hollywood for a long time - decades before metoo of course! There was something odd about the fact he was able to take a plea deal of 45 days in jail (for administring drugs to an underage girl during a photo shoot at a Hollywood A listers house, and having anal sex with her!). Many didn't like the fact the plea deal fell apart and he was likely to face years in jail - hence why he fled to France - a country without an extradition deal to the USA. As far as I understood he was married and happily living with his family there.
Woody Allen. The accusation that he abused his daughter (one time) in the attic on the day that the house was full of family members when he had years before to commit such an act... it doesn't make any sense IMHO. Mia Farrow who the grown up daughter was not estranged with seemed to be living with Farrow and on a vendetta. And incase you don't know the history, Farrow was divorced from Woody. He'd marrying their asian adopted daughter - so obviously a bitter seperation! Although it sounds bad, supposedly they started a relationship when she was in her 20s, and obviously not blood related. Not sure how long they lived in the same house in the role of the father/daughter - but obviously a odd situation most would frown on!

[Sully23]

hence why he fled to France - a country without an extradition deal to the USA. As far as I understood he was married and happily living with his family there.

Some time before Metoo the case was revived and it was in the media when the prosecutor's office asked for extradition and I don't really know how it happened because he was not in France and they took advantage of that vacuum, he spent a month detained in a Swiss Chalet and finally he was released.

The relationship between Roman and Adèle Haenel is due to the fact that the actress was indignant and protested against the award to the Polish director and that's when I found out that Adèle is Chloe.

Not sure how long they lived in the same house in the role of the father/daughter - but obviously a odd situation most would frown on!

Woody's relationship with his stepdaughter is very strange, apparently normal, but when the scandal broke out over the photographs it makes you wonder if there was something more than father/daughter, The press destroyed it, not because they were metoo, but because the infidelity and incest were scandalous, but they made the public forget it. We know that incest between father/daughter makes it a serious crime, and the big question is whether it is all a Stockholm syndrome.

[David32441]

hence why he fled to France - a country without an extradition deal to the USA. As far as I understood he was married and happily living with his family there.

Some time before Metoo the case was revived and it was in the media when the prosecutor's office asked for extradition and I don't really know how it happened because he was not in France and they took advantage of that vacuum, he spent a month detained in a Swiss Chalet and finally he was released.

The relationship between Roman and Adèle Haenel is due to the fact that the actress was indignant and protested against the award to the Polish director and that's when I found out that Adèle is Chloe.

Not sure how long they lived in the same house in the role of the father/daughter - but obviously a odd situation most would frown on!

Woody's relationship with his stepdaughter is very strange, apparently normal, but when the scandal broke out over the photographs it makes you wonder if there was something more than father/daughter, The press destroyed it, not because they were metoo, but because the infidelity and incest were scandalous, but they made the public forget it. We know that incest between father/daughter makes it a serious crime, and the big question is whether it is all a Stockholm syndrome.

reading Wikipeadia Soon Yi was not adopted by Allen. But adopted by Farrow and her previous marriage partner Andre Previn (the musician). So was never Woody Allen's daughter. Don't know if she even lived in the same house after Farrow and Allen got together.
Wikipedia notes - "Previn has said that Allen "was never any kind of father figure [to her]" and that she "never had any dealings with him" during her childhood."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soon-Yi_Previn
So not quite the incest scandal it first sounds like. Allen and Soon Yi were married when she was 29 it seems.