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Re: [REL] Ko zorijo jagode (1978) [Slovenia]

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2024 5:56 pm
by goku33
deadman wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 8:49 pm
Sully23 wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:44 pm
deadman wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:14 pm Underage nudity is not illegal in the United States.
I hope what you say is true but the problem is not the public's reaction but a visit from the FBI and a stint in a federal prison, no matter if he is artistic he is still labeled as a cp.

There are plenty of (usually older) American movies with underage nudity, which are still available on cable/streaming. Sex acts are illegal. Nudity is not. The way they basically shadow ban that is through local obscenity laws involving vaguely defined "community standards" (the vagueness is intentional). In practice this means conservative towns won't let you show your film in a public forum. The effect is like demonetizing videos on someone's YouTube channel. If you can't make money without self-censoring, you self-censor, and the industry largely does. Indie films are the big exception. Non-studio productions have limited theatrical distribution anyway, and they can stick to welcoming venues.

You're talking about material that one can face criminal charges simply for possessing. And with minors that means sex. For example: if you've seen those nudist pseudo-documentary movies showing families doing various activities sans clothing, there's a lot of naked people (of all ages) but absolutely no sex. Those are not illegal under US law. If you show them at a drive-in theater in some deep red state you could get in trouble for breaking local indecency ordinances though.

I have a magazine article about the 1938 film Child Bride, featuring 12 year old Shirley Mills. The laws really haven't changed much in all this time. The tricks they used to get around industry self-censorship are instructive regarding what's legal and what isn't. Conservatives tried to block showings of the movie because they couldn't go after the director or anyone else attached to the production for simply making it - they would have, if the law allowed them to. In fact this movie can still be viewed on Amazon Prime right now. Reposting the widely distributed Scorpions album cover certainly won't land you in trouble. Did you ever hear about the Scorpions or RCA Records (the label they were signed with) being prosecuted over it? No. And you won't find any court cases online either. RCA re-issued the album with a different cover in the US and some other countries because of negative public feedback, but no law required that, it was a business decision.
It is my understanding that in Germany and France you could theoretically and practically push the laws and what’s possible/Legal much more, right?

Of course the landscape and industry has also changes but legally you could still do quite a lot and we still see that in indie films and I’d say even more so in Shortfilms sometimes.

„Sara“ (1997) would be illegal to make in the US?

Re: [REL] Ko zorijo jagode (1978) [Slovenia]

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2024 6:14 pm
by Davros6
There's a few films that i think would have turned out different if they'd been filmed in Europe.
Hounddog Would have had nudity in it.
Fly Away Home would have had a much better shower scene.
:D :D :D

Re: [REL] Ko zorijo jagode (1978) [Slovenia]

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2024 7:41 pm
by Sully23
Davros6 wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 6:14 pm There's a few films that i think would have turned out different if they'd been filmed in Europe.
Secret Garden 1993; OT is said to have been edited.
Harriet the spy.
IT 2017; if they recreated the 1990 shower one with Lilis,
Carrie 2013; disappointing Hit Girl.
The list is long....
Davros6 wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 6:14 pm Hounddog Would have had nudity in it.
Dakota would still turn down the role, ¿why? She's 30 years old and I haven't seen any explicit OT in her adulthood unlike her sister.

Re: [REL] Ko zorijo jagode (1978) [Slovenia]

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2024 7:46 pm
by Davros6
I meant filmed back then in europe or now with different actress of the right age for the character.

I didn't realise Elle had done any OT stuff.

Re: [REL] Ko zorijo jagode (1978) [Slovenia]

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2024 2:22 am
by Sully23
As is often the case, Elle had a career on a par with her older sister, and by OT I only mean her career as an adult.

Re: [REL] Ko zorijo jagode (1978) [Slovenia]

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2024 6:18 am
by Davros6
Damn! you got my hopes up then :D