In this stylish Finnish drama, the secrets and desires of a family can no longer be suppressed. Mikko turns out to have a hereditary illness. Since then he has been worried. How long can he continue to run the family business that he and inherited from his father, just like his illness? And how does he tell his teenage daughter and adult son that they might have the wrong genes? The imaginative eight-year-old Lumi, adopted from China, also cannot get away from her roots. Mother Mirjami, meanwhile, has financial problems and doesn't want to trouble the others with them.
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[REL] Väärät juuret (2009)
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 4:16 pm
by Night457
This is exactly the type of melancholy family drama I like this time of year. Thank you.
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Sources, tech specs and talk:
General : Väärät juuret AKA Twisted Roots (2009).480p.mp4
Format : MPEG-4 at 784 kb/s
Length : 522 MiB for 1 h 33 min 8 s 0 ms
Video #0 : AVC at 650 kb/s
Aspect : 956 x 432 (2.211) at 25.000 fps
Audio #0 : AAC at 128 kb/s
Infos : 2 channels, 44.1 kHz
Language : fi
The original video was aspect ratio 1.78 and it looked too squished to me. I recoded it to 2.21 and it looks right to me. I made many minor corrections to the English subtitle.
The Finnish subtitle at opensubtitles.org indicates there was a 720p file available at one time, but I have not found it. Unfortunately I could only find it in 480p SD. The movie was distributed by Walt Disney Studios, so check to see if it is on your Disney+ subscription, and email Disney to say you want it if it isn't!
Thanks a lot for finding this rare movie and the subs.
Yes, the aspect ratio was wrong. I'll see if I can pump it up to a better picture quality.
Re: [REL] Väärät juuret (2009)
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 5:40 pm
by Night457
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Re: [REL] Väärät juuret (2009)
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 6:31 pm
by ghost
Night457 wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 5:40 pmPumpItUp.png
But it's really strange. This movie is nowhere else to find. No DVD-Rips, no torrents, not for streaming. Nothing.
Re: [REL] Väärät juuret (2009)
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 9:37 pm
by Night457
ghost wrote: Sun Nov 27, 2022 6:31 pm
But it's really strange. This movie is nowhere else to find. No DVD-Rips, no torrents, not for streaming. Nothing.
Remember that it is owned by the Mouse House, and they have lawyers that spread fear around the world.
But I am sure there must have been torrents for it on btmulu, absolutely sure. Oh well.
In my search results I THINK I found Finnish TV broadcasts from years back, but I did not bookmark them. It seems it may have been on this Swedish site at one time: https://www.tv.nu/program/vaarat-juuret But, "Tyvärr finns inte det här programmet tillgängligt just nu." ("Unfortunately, this program is not available at this time.")
Considering Finland shares a border (and a love of vodka) with Russia, I figured they might also share movies, which is why I looked at Russian streaming sites like VK. I don't know any Finnish streaming sites.
It is not quite like it has fallen off the face of the Earth like SOME movies Requested at FLM. I guess the people interested in it up until now mostly don't KNOW how to rip DVDs.
Re: [REL] Väärät juuret (2009)
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:02 pm
by ghost
I miss btmulu, too
I found only 1 torrent (800 MB), but it's dead. Maybe a seeder will show up again.
Yes, I was thinking about buying the DVD, but it's pretty expensive (Germany and US). I don't know what the shipping costs will be from Finland.
I did some tests with upscaling your file to 720p. It doesn't look too bad.
Re: [REL] Väärät juuret (2009)
Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 10:22 pm
by Night457
Whatever government agency has been taking btmulu down is pretty relentless. Problem is, I don't remember HOW I found the new site address the last time it changed! Interesting you found a torrent. Is it a site you can register on and request a reshare? Yeah, the cost for the DVD in DE and US is ridiculous. I used to wantonly waste money like that, but then I discovered FLM and took advantage of people who had already wasted THEIR money long before I did. Eventually I gave up buying DVDs entirely, since for most anything I could find a rip online anyway if there was not already a blu-ray that cost LESS than the DVD. The stated shipping cost at the Finnish site was reasonable (€4.60), but that was likely only for in-country. And I know that frequently, Scandinavian online retailers don't even ship to the rest of Europe, let alone overseas. But the fact that the price is in Euros suggests the possibility, it is not like the sites with prices in kronor. I look forward to your upscale, but the fact is that I was so involved in the story when I watched it that I quickly forgot the low resolution. (Don't forget to fix the aspect ratio in your version too, if you downloaded it directly from VK!) Also, my TV-viewing eyesight is now pretty bad anyway.
Re: [REL] Väärät juuret (2009)
Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:35 pm
by ghost
Interesting you found a torrent. Is it a site you can register on and request a reshare?
I generally watch stuff when I feel like it and don't have a hard-determined queue of my 1000+ unwatched videos. I do try to watch what I release beforehand, particularly when it is a file I have processed after downloading. I want to make sure I have not messed it up! It took me awhile to be certain what aspect ratio I felt was "right", too. I did not simply do a "soft selected" aspect ratio in mkvmerge, but instead I recoded the width x height pixel size so that it would play back properly on ALL media players, including my blu-ray player.
As for the movie itself: I don't know about you, but where I am we are well underway to being bombarded with false holiday cheer, including in movies. Movies with a more melancholy tone dealing with real problems (even non-holiday movies) instantly become more appealing to me. This is the time of year where I want to punch smiling faces and muffle ringing bells in a less-than-comfortable manner. Bah, humbug! A movie about a physically and mentally degenerative disease (spoilers, Huntington's) combined with alienated family members AND economic woes? Bring it on!
I can watch the "cheerful" Christmas movies in April or August instead.