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Is this going to mean trouble?
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:12 am
by kev
...For our US members as well as others if this catches on??
http://www.extremetech.com/internet/140 ... ed-to-know
‘Six Strikes’ programs from ISPs & MPAA ignites in nine days: Here’s what you need to know
In nine days [..from November 19, 2012, so it's already been implemented {if they kept on schedule}] five major ISPs — Comcast, AT&T, Time Warner, Verizon, and Cablevision — will activate the Copyright Alert System, colloquially known as the “six strikes” program; where the five ISPs listed above have agreed to rely on the copyright infringement data provided by a data analytics program known as MarkMonitor...
Are they going to be tracking what we're d/loading more closely than they supposedly already are? Will this have any significant effect on FLM??
what the hell??
kev.
Re: Is this going to mean trouble?
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:38 am
by Phuzzy4242
Maybe the question is what exactly MarkMonitor is looking for. If it's just filenames, the obvious fix is to obscure them like some people already do. If it's searching actual content, archiving files with a password will do the job. There are several ways to make it more difficult for the content goons to attack people, but it will make the average user work harder and may cause sources to severely restrict membership. It may be time to use VPN or Tor, or whatever the next 'thing' turns out to be.
Re: Is this going to mean trouble?
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:15 pm
by ptguardian
A lot of this is politics and posturing. If you read the fine print the IP does not have to discontinue your service and it is in their best interest not to. They want that monthly check from you...
VPN, TOR,Hidemyass or equivalents should already be practiced.
P2P will change soon enough on it's own. I can see in the future sites that trade movies will only be trading rare material because everything else will be streamed through a legal service. Movies will be at a click of a button.
Now, before the getting too old and are not staying current skeptics chime in saying the internet is not fast enough yet. One only has to look as far as the USA for an example of what the future is. We are behind on fast Internet compared to most of the world yet we have companies that are currently doing this, NETFLIX and Comcast to name a few. Both have huge selections of movies, TV shows, etcetera to stream and with the newest compression they have made it possible to get 1080p with less than a 6MBs connection. This time last year you could barely get 480p(sometimes). Also with the newest Flash updates for youtube HD content is being added everyday. Streamed content selection is growing at a faster rate than new movies are being released on Blu-ray/dvd. I didn't stream many movies because the quality was too low and many times it would pause intermittently. But, the last couple of months I have found myself watching many shorts and movies in full screen streamed from youtube that before I would have downloaded to watch instead of streaming. Paying one flat rate to your IP each month to stream what ever you want is happening. Amazon the biggest movie supplier on the planet is now offering with their Prime membership a lot of free content to stream. Some movies that I have tried to find for FLM I could not find neither for purchase or download but I did find them listed as an "instant stream" at Amazon. Raspberry Magic and Spork were both streamed long before a dvd was made available.
Re: Is this going to mean trouble?
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:24 pm
by plonkah
Stupid companies for agreeing to go along with it. Change to another ISP is what most will do - there will always be an ISP that doesn't buy into this kind of censorship. I hope they lose all their subscribers as a result.
Re: Is this going to mean trouble?
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:48 am
by mimzy
kev wrote:Are they going to be tracking what we're d/loading more closely than they supposedly already are? Will this have any significant effect on FLM??
No
This was already mentioned here:
https://www.first-loves.com/forums/v ... f=3&t=8470
Streaming is no alternative for me, because I want to "own" stuff. There is no guarantee that the streamed movies won't be taken down or scenes won't be censored and cut out in the future. Plus, I want to review movies that I've watched without paying for them again.
Re: Is this going to mean trouble?
Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:59 am
by ptguardian
I agree with you Mimzy, my downloading files to keep/"own" has not slowed down. I was pointing out this is the direction the movie scene is going. The alternative is becoming the mainstream and everything else is now becoming the alternative. Besides FLM has never been the mainstream so nothing much will change for us.

Re: Is this going to mean trouble?
Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:31 pm
by starfish21
one of the top nzb hosting sites has just shut down today,i'm very pissed off,this was one of my favourites.
http://nzbmatrix.com/the_end.html
Re: Is this going to mean trouble?
Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:52 pm
by mimzy
I didn't know nzbmatrix. Hope they are not going to shut down binsearch.info

Re: Is this going to mean trouble?
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 6:35 am
by starfish21
registration was required,it was very well organised,filtering out the hundreds of garbage files you get on binsearch and similar.i even came across stuff i uploaded,with added nfo which is a format never use.
another one down
Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:00 pm
by starfish21
http://www.pirateparty.org.uk/Proxy
the proxy for TPB in the uk is another casualty