I realise this subject has probably been discussed before but I am new and I would appreciate some feedback.
I gather that the preference is to download via eMule and I have been doing that. However, it can take 3-4 days to download a single movie and sometimes even longer than that. I have a Rapidshare premium account and can download a movie from there in around 20 minutes.
Why is there an apparently masochistic desire to stick to eMule when we can have almost instant gratification via Rapidshare or a similar source? Why not both? If someone has a movie on Rapidshare (I have several filed there) why can't we allow members to download from there if they wish? If someone wishes to use eMule then we can post a link for them there as well.
Makes sense to me.
Why no Rapidshare?
Re: Why no Rapidshare?
This is a sensitive topic here, I will try to give the bare basics.
For most of the purest and people who love FLM, this started out and has been an emule site.
To share like movies with people on the emule network, In some cases it can take days or longer to get a movie, I have on occasion been able to download a movie in less than an hour.
The big thing about this site and emule as a whole, is you find a lot of rare movies and that from the time they are posted you can download them years later. And if you ask nicely titles that are not shared at the moment can be shared again.
It is not a perfect system, but it is our system and we like it the way it is.
One thing you will find out about the movie lovers on this site, is that this is that they have many methods of collecting movies, this being one of them.
torrents, rapidshare, usenet are other forms. They all have there pluses and minuses, but this being an emule forum, this is why we go with it.
I hope this has given a little better idea why we do it this way the emule way.
For most of the purest and people who love FLM, this started out and has been an emule site.
To share like movies with people on the emule network, In some cases it can take days or longer to get a movie, I have on occasion been able to download a movie in less than an hour.
The big thing about this site and emule as a whole, is you find a lot of rare movies and that from the time they are posted you can download them years later. And if you ask nicely titles that are not shared at the moment can be shared again.
It is not a perfect system, but it is our system and we like it the way it is.
One thing you will find out about the movie lovers on this site, is that this is that they have many methods of collecting movies, this being one of them.
torrents, rapidshare, usenet are other forms. They all have there pluses and minuses, but this being an emule forum, this is why we go with it.
I hope this has given a little better idea why we do it this way the emule way.
Re: Why no Rapidshare?
Keep in mind also that non-ed2k links are allowed temporarily if there is no suitable ed2k link available. Some of us will download from the other links and start sharing the file on ed2k, so everyone will be happy. 
If you have a decent upload, you could do this on your own; if not, post the non-ed2k links here and someone who does will help out. 
If you have a decent upload, you could do this on your own; if not, post the non-ed2k links here and someone who does will help out. Re: Why no Rapidshare?
A short expansion on rmt's fine comments...
eMule is ideal for long-term sharing of movies, it was designed by its creators to sacrifice some download speed in exchange for file longevity. The majority of files which Rich posted in 2004 are still alive and available to someone discovering them for the first time on this board, and many that are dead are easily reshared by members here when asked. Contrast that to torrents and Rapidshare link where for various reasons file lifetime is much more often measured in weeks instead of years. This leads to a much bigger selection on eMule at any given moment, and lends stability to the board.
I fully understand why you as a Rapidshare premium member prefer it, it is quick and easy if you pay. But the majority of the membership doesn't wish to pay and prefers a free alternative. Free Rapidshare is much much more time-consuming for me than eMule, in personal time rather than elapsed time, which is more important to me as I've been here long enough that I usually don't need a file to watch tonight, later this week is good enough. I can initiate an eMule download in a couple of minutes and not worry about it much until it's done.
At one time Rapidshare etc. links were freely allowed but they got out of hand and Rich felt they had the potential to hurt eMule sharing, so the current restricted rules were implemented. Rapidshare links are fine if there is no equivalent file (title and quality) on eMule, but the expectation is someone here will download from Rapidshare and put it on eMule and at some point the Rapidshare links will be removed. But as rmt said, members here search rapidshare, torrents, Usenet and other sources for files to bring to eMule and noone is disparaging those other methods of sharing. But each has its own strengths and drawbacks.
eMule is ideal for long-term sharing of movies, it was designed by its creators to sacrifice some download speed in exchange for file longevity. The majority of files which Rich posted in 2004 are still alive and available to someone discovering them for the first time on this board, and many that are dead are easily reshared by members here when asked. Contrast that to torrents and Rapidshare link where for various reasons file lifetime is much more often measured in weeks instead of years. This leads to a much bigger selection on eMule at any given moment, and lends stability to the board.
I fully understand why you as a Rapidshare premium member prefer it, it is quick and easy if you pay. But the majority of the membership doesn't wish to pay and prefers a free alternative. Free Rapidshare is much much more time-consuming for me than eMule, in personal time rather than elapsed time, which is more important to me as I've been here long enough that I usually don't need a file to watch tonight, later this week is good enough. I can initiate an eMule download in a couple of minutes and not worry about it much until it's done.
At one time Rapidshare etc. links were freely allowed but they got out of hand and Rich felt they had the potential to hurt eMule sharing, so the current restricted rules were implemented. Rapidshare links are fine if there is no equivalent file (title and quality) on eMule, but the expectation is someone here will download from Rapidshare and put it on eMule and at some point the Rapidshare links will be removed. But as rmt said, members here search rapidshare, torrents, Usenet and other sources for files to bring to eMule and noone is disparaging those other methods of sharing. But each has its own strengths and drawbacks.
Re: Why no Rapidshare?
Your question: Why Not Rapidshare, direct download, in addition to eMule?
No definitive answer to that, Teacher. In truth, every download option should be made available to movie lovers; such as music videos and other off-topic subjects are available. The idea that this small board sharing links damages eMule is laughable. Moreover, links can be shared for 1 year or as many years as preferred, absolutely free. Rapidshare excluded.
Indeed, no one can fault any one method of acquiring these great films. But what can be faulted is limiting them to a chosen few, where there are so many other options available.
No definitive answer to that, Teacher. In truth, every download option should be made available to movie lovers; such as music videos and other off-topic subjects are available. The idea that this small board sharing links damages eMule is laughable. Moreover, links can be shared for 1 year or as many years as preferred, absolutely free. Rapidshare excluded.
Indeed, no one can fault any one method of acquiring these great films. But what can be faulted is limiting them to a chosen few, where there are so many other options available.
Re: Why no Rapidshare?
You register for this forum to obtain the ed2k links. That is free.Amadeus wrote:But what can be faulted is limiting them to a chosen few
You download & install the eMule client. That is also free.
You configure eMule correctly (there are many here who will willingly assist) & start downloading. Once again free.
Precisely how does that make us the chosen few?
Shame of it all is you quite clearly have a rapid connection with terrific upload capability. I'd willingly PM you direct download & other links if I thought you were interested in helping sharing on eMule, but.....................
Re: Why no Rapidshare?
eMule is complicated. Most would prefer not to be lead around by the hand till they get it right. The forum has 5700 members, perhaps more lost in the big crash I keep hearing about. But a fraction ever remain... Many here have admined their own forum or run websites, but the majority have neither the time nor experience to learn or understand p2p sharing. Torrents tend to be the next step from direct download, however boards I've managed, only about 5 or 10 percent of all active members use torrents.loverboy wrote:You register for this forum to obtain the ed2k links. That is free.Amadeus wrote:But what can be faulted is limiting them to a chosen few
You download & install the eMule client. That is also free.
You configure eMule correctly (there are many here who will willingly assist) & start downloading. Once again free.
Precisely how does that make us the chosen few?
Like I said, no faulting ed2k. I love eMule! Just seems a shame the only thing preventing us from being a larger, stronger community is our unwillingness to integrate all other methods of sharing.
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Re: Why no Rapidshare?
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i agree to what you are saying to a point. i certainly feel integrating other methods is needed. but direct integration may cause new problems. such as too many new people coming to this site that may not have the same beliefs or directive. and as i have seen by many of those self righteous persons. they try very hard to close sites that they feel are not to their morals.Amadeus wrote:eMule is complicated. Most would prefer not to be lead around by the hand till they get it right. The forum has 5700 members, perhaps more lost in the big crash I keep hearing about. But a fraction ever remain... Many here have admined their own forum or run websites, but the majority have neither the time nor experience to learn or understand p2p sharing. Torrents tend to be the next step from direct download, however boards I've managed, only about 5 or 10 percent of all active members use torrents.loverboy wrote:You register for this forum to obtain the ed2k links. That is free.Amadeus wrote:But what can be faulted is limiting them to a chosen few
You download & install the eMule client. That is also free.
You configure eMule correctly (there are many here who will willingly assist) & start downloading. Once again free.
Precisely how does that make us the chosen few?
Like I said, no faulting ed2k. I love eMule! Just seems a shame the only thing preventing us from being a larger, stronger community is our unwillingness to integrate all other methods of sharing.
i for one often suggest where one might find a movie such as TPB or other such hint. then shortly they or i will post ed2k link.
with the every increasing hd content. it is only a matter of time before a new method will become standard as you are suggesting. i can get a torrent or direct download at 1mb per second at times. never have i seen that with emule. plus i usually get blu ray rips when available. i can only get those on torrents not here.
but as we can discuss this topic and a very good one i might add. thank you. i also keep in mind that this site is not mine and i treat my time here the same as being in ones home. i respect the rules given by the owner. hope this helps to the topic.
Re: Why no Rapidshare?
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