[REL] Up in the Cherry Tree (1984) [Bulgaria]

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Re: [REL] Up in the Cherry Tree (1984) [Bulgaria]

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Update on solidtorrents 720p dvdrip h265

The video quality is excellent, the audio is in original language, and audio is not so subdued . HOWEVER, it sounds to me like the audio is almost entirely on the right side. Anyone want to verify with me? I'll be seeding the heck out of the file for anyone interested. Specifically, it is this one:
https://solidtorrents.eu/torrents/gore- ... 990c85a5d/
(you may have to click on magnet link)


Note of interest. In the very beginning, the kids are in the middle of French lessons, which may be why languages sounds so different right away.
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Re: [REL] Up in the Cherry Tree (1984) [Bulgaria]

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Hey, thanks for the other sources!

I agree, the VK files are multivoice Russian dubs. The YouTube video is Bulgarian and the same source as starfish's file, but starfish's is better.

I am interested in those solidtorrents files.
pillowbaker wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 2:43 am Update on solidtorrents 720p dvdrip h265

The video quality is excellent, the audio is in original language, and audio is not so subdued . HOWEVER, it sounds to me like the audio is almost entirely on the right side. Anyone want to verify with me?
Of course there is no such thing as a 720p dvd (only up to 576p), so this must be an upscale from a dvdrip. I am glad it is a good one! I am going to get this one too, but I don't have any headphones to be certain of left or right. I would have to run from one speaker to another, aww jeez. Or pick them up and pretend they are headphones??

However, the original theatrical sound is MONO. It SHOULD be either centered for the middle speaker rather than on right or left; or else reprocessed as dual mono, the same track on BOTH the right and left. (On a laptop it does not really make a difference.) Remixing it should not be hard. I have never done this, but I can't see it being any more difficult than processing video with the software I have. I will wait and see. It's going really fast with you and the other seeders working together, thanks!

But what I am really interested in is that monstrous 6.53Gb "Gore.na.chereshata.1984.1080i.HDTV.x264.ts"

It supposedly has one seeder but I don't see any life in it at the moment. Are you trying for it? Did you get any of it? If it is real 1080, it could be an even bigger improvement. But if the 720p is better than starfish's file, I will be happy enough. I could easily watch this one again someday.
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Night457 wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 3:36 am But what I am really interested in is that monstrous 6.53Gb "Gore.na.chereshata.1984.1080i.HDTV.x264.ts"

It supposedly has one seeder but I don't see any life in it at the moment. Are you trying for it? Did you get any of it? If it is real 1080, it could be an even bigger improvement. But if the 720p is better than starfish's file, I will be happy enough. I could easily watch this one again someday.
Hey glad to have you on board with the file!

Yeah, I saw that 1080p and jumped on it. I haven't gotten a single byte yet and my client doesn't even display a seeder. Gonna keep trying! I've got some torrents that I've gotten lucky with lately.

Yeah, at 720p, this dvdrip would definitely be a an upscale, and a fairly decent one, it seems. I was totally surprised; when I first check on it, it was at 90% and blazing! Solidtorrents registers 0 seeders for it, so I had little hope of getting it. Goes to show, it's worth giving any old, dead torrent a try.

In the past, with audio balancing issues, I have simply shifted the Left-Right balance according to how I wanted it to sound, so the audio was shifted in real time. I remember doing that as far back as on my old cassette recordings. I haven't had to do that in a long time, and I haven't don it yet with this version of vlc.

Turns out the 720p upscale I got from vk had a Russian VO. Out of the 4 available, I coulda sworn there was one with the original audio. I might have picked out the wrong one, I sometimes make those kinds of mistakes.
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pillowbaker wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 2:43 am Update on solidtorrents 720p dvdrip h265

The video quality is excellent, the audio is in original language, and audio is not so subdued.
This is quite a good 720p upscale, though not as good as what ghost does. It is not restored, but it is sourced from a copy with minimal print damage. It has NO watermarks. It is in the CORRECT 25fps, not the awful 30 we sometimes get. Though: I have to admit I did not sit down and watch it carefully in motion.
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The pre-movie (DVD-R?) text-scroll makes it so it is not in sync with the opensubtitles English file, but resync was a straightforward change. I did not have to make multiple readjustments for a whole separate block of subs like I had to for the starfish file. (Something about the TV-broadcast source got the final part slightly out of sync for that one.) I did fiddle a little with the opening credits subtitles.

Synced English subtitles for 720p upscaled solidtorrents file:
Gore.na.chereshata.(1984).720p.DVDRip.H265-JVC.en.zip
HOWEVER, it sounds to me like the audio is almost entirely on the right side.
The codec media information claims it is AC3 2 channel L R, but what I hear from my admittedly unsophisticated sound system is CENTER and RIGHT!! Hmm, I am going to have to think about that one. I am not ready to tackle a remux and sound check tonight.

That 1080i file was blazing along with a 100% source a few minutes ago. Right now I have just two peer sources with partial downloads, and no doubt one of them is pillowbaker. I'll stick with this one awhile, as the full seeder is likely to come back.
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Yeah, this is especially not bad, considering how much we really see coming out of Bulgaria.

Nice job on the video quality rundown, Night. And of course, thanks for adjusting the subs. I was still occupied trying to grab other options for the file. I'll spend a little time looking for a decent DVD source, and the move on. I am live with this upscale as well, and keep that 1080i file on the backburner for a while.

A remux may not be necessary. While playing the file in vlc, go to audio drop down menu, stereo mode, and select "mono". This pushes the sound through all speakers and sounds... satisfactory. Setting it to "left", and the audio is obviously completely silent. Oddly enough, setting audio to "right" allows sound through the main front left speaker. :O Also, selecting "reverse stereo" balances things out slightly better, though left speaker sound is also noticeable quieter.

But if you're down to do a mux, I am very interested in learning.
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Night457 wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 5:34 am That 1080i file was blazing along with a 100% source a few minutes ago. Right now I have just two peer sources with partial downloads, and no doubt one of them is pillowbaker. I'll stick with this one awhile, as the full seeder is likely to come back.
Well you were right! Guess what fully downloaded. Considering I have 10 torrents stuck between 96% to 99.9%, this is very surprising to me.

Audio on this one is better, with proper audio balancing. Only issue is it was encoded or recorded in the wrong aspect ratio, but switching to 4:3 fixes the problem but then the little watermark get squished a bit. But hey, I think this is pretty good!

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Anyone who is curious and doesn't want to wait for an emule release, don't grab the 720p torrent, grab the 1080i, linked here:
https://solidtorrents.eu/torrents/gore- ... da5a705b7/

I'll be seeding it for a while. Right now, it has 5 full seeders. Note, it is 6gb, and the 720p is only 2.3gb and also has synched subs courtesy of Night, so it is fine as well, if you don't mind goofin with the audio balance a bit.
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Much chatter about these torrent files that I will SPOILER because I tend to go on rather long...
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pillowbaker wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:08 am A remux may not be necessary. While playing the file in vlc
This is good for many people, but I do not watch movies on my computer or with VLC remotely; I play the files through my blu-ray player. It does not have the extensive adjustment options that VLC does! So I change the audio and video in the file until it is right, have the subtitles synced properly and in the right format ... and then I only have to turn the volume up or down.
But if you're down to do a mux, I am very interested in learning.
I think I would have that discussion separately so I don't get strangled for filling a movie thread with tech talk more than I already have, which I would probably get wrong anyway because I am no audio expert. I will do multiple audio remuxes and compare them, because I don't want problems with audio phasing or echo. I have already done one because I could not sleep anyway!

However, there is that 1080i file ...
pillowbaker wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:15 am Audio on this one is better, with proper audio balancing.
Yay!
Only issue is it was encoded or recorded in the wrong aspect ratio, but switching to 4:3 fixes the problem but then the little watermark get squished a bit.
I sure hope that "little" watermark is indeed little and the 1080 resolution clearly superior, or I will just stick with the clean 720p upscale.

I was expecting to recode the TS file to an MKV anyway, because external subtitles do not work with TS files in most players. Fixing the aspect ratio would be one more part of that. AND I would delogo the watermark as best I can. AND I would make it so that a 75-minute movie does not take up 6.53Gb, which is way too big. That just comes from recording a live stream, I guess. All this can be done in one recode with the right software, but I am going to make an estimate of at least 7 hours of uninterrupted processing for my old computer to accomplish it. Of course I have to set it up properly in the first place so I get the right results... If I goof, then I have to do it all over again. And when I recode a file, I always watch it before I share it, because I know that sometimes I DO goof!
I have this sneaking suspicion that the "lone seeder" for the 1080i file is an FLM member who jumped to reshare it after seeing mention of it in this thread. AND others have joined in the torrenting too. Whoever you may be, thank you very much!
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pillowbaker wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:15 am
Night457 wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 5:34 am That 1080i file was blazing along with a 100% source a few minutes ago. Right now I have just two peer sources with partial downloads, and no doubt one of them is pillowbaker. I'll stick with this one awhile, as the full seeder is likely to come back.
Well you were right! Guess what fully downloaded. Considering I have 10 torrents stuck between 96% to 99.9%, this is very surprising to me.

Audio on this one is better, with proper audio balancing. Only issue is it was encoded or recorded in the wrong aspect ratio, but switching to 4:3 fixes the problem but then the little watermark get squished a bit. But hey, I think this is pretty good!

edit:
Anyone who is curious and doesn't want to wait for an emule release, don't grab the 720p torrent, grab the 1080i, linked here:
https://solidtorrents.eu/torrents/gore- ... da5a705b7/

I'll be seeding it for a while. Right now, it has 5 full seeders. Note, it is 6gb, and the 720p is only 2.3gb and also has synched subs courtesy of Night, so it is fine as well, if you don't mind goofin with the audio balance a bit.
Can you reseed it again? I tried to download it but no seeder rn. Thank you!

Edit: Someone finally reseeded it after I commented on here! Thank you so much! I guess it's true there's "lone seeder from FLM" :D
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The files posted below are re-encoded from the previously mentioned 1080i HDTV .ts file torrent, except these are in the correct 4:3 aspect ratio. The source and my re-encodes have a few mild digital breakup video glitches and occasional film damage, but otherwise look very good and much better than previous versions.

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This first large file has the full video bitrate and keeps the TV logo watermark.

General : Gore na chereshata (1984).1440x1080.HDTV.mkv
Format : Matroska at 11.1 Mb/s
Length : 5.79 GiB for 1 h 14 min 58 s 800 ms
Video #0 : AVC at 10.8 Mb/s
Aspect : 1440 x 1080 (1.333) at 25.000 fps
Audio #0 : MPEG Audio at 256 kb/s
Infos : 2 channels, 48.0 kHz
Language : Bulgarian

Single file direct-download:
https://ulozto.net/file/3e0ooFmLv94l/go ... SPM2R0MN==

9 x 700Mb zip files to extract to 5.79Gb:

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https://mega.nz/file/TYgQXJ6b#pJFgVv6CuZS3hoWGi6EcRTW9DjoUsy5GaAltx0hpKYA
https://mega.nz/file/HEhSBaCb#A4ddQ_qPFenpc0DAPJWS7YPyDu5ea7b7hrW6Gx_V4JE
https://mega.nz/file/zMZz2IwI#IhwYhnbWIWYhEOERBjXO6I3pzST23hHkuKlMwQMr6Qw
https://mega.nz/file/7FJBUY4B#swTGxSezVMu4Q8_DgSDsWvU_qpqKJnQR_yVHfjL3Jzw
https://mega.nz/file/OMRUHYyC#H5sjla8E2olwKSwWjVaEw48Scy5YQsioRAv-G5jyOhQ
https://mega.nz/file/mdAGXDjL#5MdExdSzSx4Ey6-sdCk_6X2a6PgCtujjtTOnjEn2qnU
https://mega.nz/file/qchmUAjT#J9FOB6_WcvaazifTaa2BIyVAEcY2EAedYmwWphqyAzw
https://mega.nz/file/XVQjiSyL#bAqBiLzD7bkV6qT6l04KlLHVDNw37tIf-nAfrrUFnTM
https://mega.nz/file/mIo3CBQC#pg__T4_TD6OLufUHtMRrdSkKbqc9XEjRja_LtKWocfw
These ENGLISH SUBTITLES were taken unchanged from opensubtitles.org, apparently posted by TNT's Subransu. They can also be renamed and used for the smaller file:
Gore na chereshata (1984).1440x1080.HDTV.en.srt
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This next file is smaller and it blurs out the TV logo watermark.

General : Gore na chereshata (1984).1440x1080.dLg.mkv
Format : Matroska at 5 104 kb/s
Length : 2.67 GiB for 1 h 14 min 58 s 800 ms
Video #0 : AVC at 4 847 kb/s
Aspect : 1440 x 1080 (1.333) at 25.000 fps
Audio #0 : MPEG Audio at 256 kb/s
Infos : 2 channels, 48.0 kHz
Language : Bulgarian

Single file direct-download:
https://ulozto.net/file/jJ4oxIdkqtso/go ... 1AGmEzZt==

4 x 700Mb zip files to extract to 2.67Gb

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https://mega.nz/file/of9WDRKB#Zzvlasyn4sYlx9O77xINWkDdMtyYRnTUALPM_J5fRds
https://mega.nz/file/Maljzb6A#wK-VDWBq6QKqifNzN0yT5O-YrhdLwpPjzTdrbfPzwhI
https://mega.nz/file/NXM3iCZb#YQdDIA57DKg_EpCgOr_3LTPlrW9Of-G2L2MrQXZahYI
https://mega.nz/file/5TsCFJyA#soEnjUJjTQxuNS98RrhwDf8h4uvCwUj-3RW_6vp2wm4
Emule for smaller file,
1080p delogoed video in Bulgarian with optional English subtitles:
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