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Night457 wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 2:41 am

goku33 wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 2:19 am I assume that "HD" version comes from the 1.7GB DVDRip (x264) I came across elsewhere.(658x576, 2200 kb/s). Because I don’t think a hd web-dl or hdtv exists.

I dunno, I am not familiar with the Cineb site and its sources. But the file is only 1.07Gb, and if it is an upscale they may very well have done it from the actual DVD. (After all, a DVDRip requires that someone actually have the disk.)

Here are the specs (I renamed it as a webrip):

Technically webrip means you used a screen capture tool to record a stream, while web-dl means you downloaded it directly. Usually web-dl files are superior - but not always. Good capture tools can perfectly duplicate what is on your screen. Unfortunately a lot of people use webrip and web-dl interchangeably so the labeling of a file doesn't always tell you how it was made.

The source is what really matters. A high quality source yields high quality rips and downloads, and vice versa.

deadman wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:37 pm

Night457 wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 2:41 am

goku33 wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 2:19 am I assume that "HD" version comes from the 1.7GB DVDRip (x264) I came across elsewhere.(658x576, 2200 kb/s). Because I don’t think a hd web-dl or hdtv exists.

I dunno, I am not familiar with the Cineb site and its sources. But the file is only 1.07Gb, and if it is an upscale they may very well have done it from the actual DVD. (After all, a DVDRip requires that someone actually have the disk.)

Here are the specs (I renamed it as a webrip):

Technically webrip means you used a screen capture tool to record a stream, while web-dl means you downloaded it directly. Usually web-dl files are superior - but not always. Good capture tools can perfectly duplicate what is on your screen. Unfortunately a lot of people use webrip and web-dl interchangeably so the labeling of a file doesn't always tell you how it was made.

The source is what really matters. A high quality source yields high quality rips and downloads, and vice versa.

Yep. Which makes it weird that rargb/torrent sites once briefly started to call web-dl‘s WEBRips. In the early days of Netflix rips, WEbRips often weren’t even just screen recordings but captured through video capture cards exploiting hdcp broken encryption if I remember correctly. if I remember correctly the actual scene can rip 4k directly from all sites nowadays but it’s not publicly available like the regular 1080p ripping tools.

This thread is for mimzy and ghost!

deadman wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:37 pm Technically webrip means you used a screen capture tool to record a stream, while web-dl means you downloaded it directly.

I used the Stream Recorder extension to get it from CineB. It takes some minutes to load a stream into its memory and generate a downloadable file. So did I name it right? Or do I have to capture it in REAL TIME, like a VCR does? I have never done that, so if that is the case then absolutely everything I get is a DL and not a RIP.

The source is what really matters. A high quality source yields high quality rips and downloads, and vice versa.

Yeah! That's what I was thinking!

Yay, can I be naughty in this thread?

Well, no pr0n and no spam. But go tech-nerdery all you want! It is just a matter of having the conversation in the right place, which I have been told more than once. I feel guilty because I have been exasperating mimzy and ghost with my off-topic essays for years, and I frequently goad others into long drawn-out non-movie discussions. I am bad, but it is not out of malice. My undisciplined mind just easily wanders away from the topic of a MOVIE thread.

At least as Moderator I can move posts to a new thread. I think I actually did it once or twice before. (And then that conversation ends.)

I feel guilty

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Back to the subject: I have TubeDigger installed. In cases when it can't download a video, it "records" it. I have to play it in real time and its 'getting downloaded in original size. No capturing from my screen.

Is this a Web-Dl or a rip?

ghost wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 4:07 pm Back to the subject: I have TubeDigger installed. In cases when it can't download a video, it "records" it. I have to play it in real time and its 'getting downloaded in original size. No capturing from my screen.

Is this a Web-Dl or a rip?

Some programs work by capturing the output of the graphics card, before it goes to the screen. So you can move the pointer around or even browse during the recording and it won't show up on the resulting file. But you have to play and capture it in real time.

Software that downloads the data stream directly works much faster. Not surprisingly the DRM schemes that streamers use have been hacked. Although I'm not sure how the releasers who put out 4K web-dls do it - most downloaders I've seen top out at 1080p. Content providers seem to prioritize the 4K. I suppose the people who have decrypted 2160p streams don't want studios to know how it was done by making their code public.

There is StreamFab and some others, that let you download files directly from Amazon Prime Video and some other streaming services. Even in 4K.

I wonder, if the new DRM from iTunes already has been hacked...

ghost wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 4:41 pm There is StreamFab and some others, that let you download files directly from Amazon Prime Video and some other streaming services. Even in 4K.

I wonder, if the new DRM from iTunes already has been hacked...

How many DRM schemes have been hyped as uncrackable, only to be broken almost immediately? We've got 8 billion people on this planet. If even one of them breaks your encryption, everybody's broken your encryption. When will they learn? Studios are already raking in mountains of cash even with the piracy. It's not like they need to stop it.

deadman wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:11 pm

ghost wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 4:41 pm There is StreamFab and some others, that let you download files directly from Amazon Prime Video and some other streaming services. Even in 4K.

I wonder, if the new DRM from iTunes already has been hacked...

How many DRM schemes have been hyped as uncrackable, only to be broken almost immediately? We've got 8 billion people on this planet. If even one of them breaks your encryption, everybody's broken your encryption. When will they learn? Studios are already raking in mountains of cash even with the piracy. It's not like they need to stop it.

StreamFab itself has just been cracked as well again. Hogwarts Legacy the Game has also already been cracked now. LOL

Before the Scene managed to break the highest widevine DRM, they indeed had to capture the videos in real time. I remember how this was the sole reason for having to wait 1-3 days for all episodes of a Series to pop up.