[REL] ...Is It the Design on the Wrapper? (1997) short [UK]
Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:58 pm
by Rich
...Is It the Design on the Wrapper? (1997)
A woman dressed garishly in bubble-gum colors conducts an opinion survey about bubble gum consumer habits at a street market. Her interviewee, a girl of six or seven, is in turn determined, convinced, engaged, skeptical, annoyed, and distracted by other, more important things. Written by Eileen Berdon {eberdon@aol.com}
Re: [REL] ...Is It the Design on the Wrapper? (1997) short [UK]
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:36 am
by pillowbaker
Vimeo has a slightly higher quality file under the channel name of the director. 720p resolution, but realistically only marginally better than the low quality youtube link. It has the full end credits, however, it has much subdued audio.
Re: [REL] ...Is It the Design on the Wrapper? (1997) short [UK]
Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2023 7:14 am
by Night457
Thank you to Triela for the recommendation!
And to pillowbaker for the new link. I did not have problems with the audio, although I would not mind having subtitles for when the little girl gets worked up!
Re: [REL] ...Is It the Design on the Wrapper? (1997) short [UK]
Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2023 7:20 am
by pillowbaker
OMG Night you're right. I came across this while cleaning up my jdownloader directory (still an absolute midden), and I played this short to see what it was. The subdued volume mixed with my already low volume setting, and I could not tell at first if she was speaking English.
So, I tells the forum, as if I'm not distracted enough already:
"This makes me want to try my first ever 'sub-what-I-hear' subtitles and I could really use another ear or two! Please, take a look what I go' so far and fix whatever you like, and help me fill in all those blanks."
This girl's tirade really gets me riled up! She could audition for that O'Keefe Foundation, certainly! You tell 'em, girly!
Spoiler:
So I was standing on the corner...
... cross me...
... I'm not allowed to cross by myself, and this lady comes by. And she says,
"Well hello there young lady. Would you like to try a new bubblegum sample? Do you choose/chew this brand?"
And I says, I don't LIKE bubblegum.
"Don't like bubblegum."
So she gets out this pen with a string on the end. And she's copying everything I say.
"Doesn't like bubblegum."
Is that a test? (or It's not a test!)
And then she says,
"Any why don't you like it? Is it the color?"
"Is it the smell?"
"Is it the design on the wrapper?"
And I says, "No."
"No."
Cuz you can't blow bubbles.
"Can't blow bubbles. Very interesting. Very." (that second "very" took me longer to figure out than it should have.)
So she writes that down, too. But I must'a got the wrong answer AGAIN. (Is so fussy. or She's still crossing. <-- ???) And then, she says,
"Well, young lady, how would you like a bubblegum which would guarantee to blow bubbles? Hmmm?"
"Don't know. Can't with these things, either. (????) OR cross the road by myself. ??? likes Sange better and THAT'S cuz she's pretty. And my ??? say I don't TRY! And mummy plays (or and when we play) what Carl?? wants. I'm always it??? and I'm never allowed to watch what I want to watch. And my DAD keeps calling me Taina?? And Taina's not MY name, it's my big sister's name. And still??? pinching me when they're not looking. And, and, Dad doesn't like my Mum ... and THAT's because I peed in ... pool ... and all summer. and Mum's done ... cuz I don't NEED a bedtime story ... But I can't read cuz I was held MONTHS??? cuz... handwriting. And I didn't ... what I gone on about, really. She just keeps doing crosses like this! And somehow I got mad??? (And I'm shoutin and crying like mad???) And I said to the lady,
"So look. It's got NOTHING to do with your bubblegum. It's me, it's all me!"
So I'm shoutin and cryin away, the lady's scribblin on her pad. And then some .... (squish???) And this nice man says, "Is this lady bothering you, girly?"
"Is this lady bothering you, girly"
The lady gets very nervous and she starts (handing out??) that bubblegum to everybody???
And she's like,
"Here! Here! Sir. Madam."
"Here! Here! Sir. Madam."
"How would YOU like bubblegum that, ehh. But THIS young lady, who, who... only just now, really. We haven't been introduced. What is your name? I'm Patricia, but everyone calls me Pat-- Patty! Sheep?? She says she can't, but our new brand-- brand new brand-- is absolutely guaranteed to ehh, I don't know what. Sir! Do help yourselves. Don't be shy. Madam!"
It's not me. It's HER they're lookin at.
"It really is very-- I mean, I, normally myself ... I'm a chewing gum girl myself. But even I. No?"
Maybe they don't like he bubblegum, either."
"Sir? You don't. Why don't you like it? Why? Is it the color? Is it the smell? Is it the design on the wrapper?"
And nobody knows what's she's talking about.
So, then I went home.
This short was greatly enjoyable! Fix them, I'll time them.
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Re: [REL] ...Is It the Design on the Wrapper? (1997) short [UK]
Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2023 3:55 pm
by ghost
This makes me want to try my first ever 'sub-what-I-hear' subtitles
May I ask, why you don't simply use Whisper? It works pretty well with English dialects.
Re: [REL] ...Is It the Design on the Wrapper? (1997) short [UK]
Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2023 4:00 pm
by Night457
Doing it by ear for fun?
(Eventually I would give up and try the computer, I admit.)
Re: [REL] ...Is It the Design on the Wrapper? (1997) short [UK]
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2023 5:25 am
by pillowbaker
ghost wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2023 3:55 pmMay I ask, why you don't simply use Whisper? It works pretty well with English dialects.
Well, you may have noticed with your previous requests that this can be very entertaining (to me). I admit, some of what I heard from this short I had a hard time understanding. I was unsure if whisper could manage to understand something that I found too garbled, so was unsure about trying it.
Anyways, the girl in this short and her accent are super cute.
Re: [REL] ...Is It the Design on the Wrapper? (1997) short [UK]
Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2023 11:34 pm
by Night457
My second favorite part is where she breaks down fake-crying in order to elicit sympathy and incite the growing mob against the poor innocent woman. What a mean little girl!
My FAVORITE part is where she imitates the man who first comes to her rescue:
"Is this lady bovvering you, girly?"
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Note: the preschool game "What's the time, Mr. Crocodile?" is apparently a variation of "What's the time, Mr. Wolf?" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What%27s_ ... Mr_Wolf%3F
I had not heard of either one of them before.
I listened to some parts on a repeating loop dozens of times, sometimes slowed down. Thanks to this and pillowbaker's help, I have narrowed it down to only FOUR parts where I am not sure.
My version of the dialog compared to pillowbaker's:
Spoiler:
I made no attempt to decipher the parents shouting and arguing in the background.
I alternate pillowbaker's text with my own ideas.
GUIDE TO CHANGES:
^^^ For the parts where I agree totally with the above text.
[ ] For the parts with any kind of change, even just a typo. {???} For the parts where I still am bewildered or unsure.
DIALOG:
So I was standing on the corner...
^^^
... cross me...
[Waiting for someone to cross me.]
... I'm not allowed to cross by myself, and this lady comes by. And she says,
['Cause I'm not allowed to cross by myself, and this lady comes by. And she says,]
"Well hello there young lady. Would you like to try a new bubblegum sample? Do you choose/chew this brand?"
["Well hello there young lady. Would you like to try a new bubblegum sample? Do you chew this brand?"]
And I says, I don't LIKE bubblegum.
^^^
"Don't like bubblegum."
^^^
So she gets out this pen with a string on the end. And she's copying everything I say.
^^^
"Doesn't like bubblegum."
^^^
Is that a test? (or It's not a test!)
[Is that a test?]
And then she says,
^^^
"Any why don't you like it?
["And why don't you like it?]
Is it the color?"
^^^
"Is it the smell?"
^^^
"Is it the design on the wrapper?"
^^^
And I says, "No."
^^^
"No."
^^^
Cuz you can't blow bubbles.
['Cause I can't blow bubbles.]
"Can't blow bubbles. Very interesting. Very."
^^^
So she writes that down, too. But I must'a got the wrong answer AGAIN.
^^^
(Is so fussy. or She's still crossing. <-- ???)
[She's still crossing.]
And then, she says,
^^^
"Well, young lady, how would you like a bubblegum which
^^^
would guarantee to blow bubbles? Hmmm?"
[was guaranteed to blow bubbles? Hmmm?"]
"Don't know.
^^^
Can't with these things, either. (????) {Can't whist(le) (with) fing(ers), either.} {!!???!!}
OR cross the road by myself.
^^^
??? likes Sange better and THAT'S cuz she pretty.
[Julie likes Sanjay better than ducks 'cause she's pretty.] {???}
And my ??? say I don't TRY!
[And my teacher say I don't TRY!]
And mummy plays (or and when we play) what Carl?? wants.
[And when we play 'What's the time, Mr. Crocodile?', I'm always "It"!]
and I'm never allowed to watch what I want to watch.
^^^
And my DAD keeps calling me Taina??
[And my DAD keeps calling me "Tina".]
And Taina's not MY name, it's my big sister's name.
[And Tina's not MY name, it's my big sister's name.]
And still??? pinching me when they're not looking.
[And she's always pinching me when they're not looking.]
And, and, Dad doesn't like my Mum ...
[And, and, Dad don't like Mum no more]
and THAT's because I peed in ... pool ... and all summer.
[and THAT's 'cause I peed in the paddling pool last summer]
and Mum's done ... cuz {???}
I don't NEED a bedtime story ...
^^^
But I can't read cuz I was held MONTHS??? cuz... handwriting.
[But I can't read 'cause I was ill with the mumps
when they just started handwriting.]
And I didn't ... what I gone on about, really.
[And I didn't know what they're going on about, really.]
She just keeps doing crosses like this!
[But she keeps doing crosses like this!]
And somehow I got mad??? (And I'm shoutin and crying like mad???)
[And all the sudden I was cryin' like mad.]
And I said to the lady,
[And I says to the lady,]
"So look. It's got NOTHING to do with your bubblegum. It's me, it's all me!"
^^^
So I'm shoutin and cryin away, the lady's scribblin on her pad.
^^^
And then some .... (squish???)
[And then somethin' goes squish.]
And this nice man says, "Is this lady bothering you, girly?"
^^^
"Is this lady bothering you, girly"
"[Is this lady bothering you, girly?"]
The lady gets very nervous and she starts (handing out??) that bubblegum to everybody???
[So the lady gets very nervous and she starts handing out bubblegum to everybody.]
And she's like,
[And she's going,]
"Here! Here! Sir. Madam."
^^^
"Here! Here! Sir. Madam."
^^^
"How would YOU like bubblegum that, ehh.
["How would YOU like a bubblegum that, ehh. Sir?]
But THIS young lady, who, who... only just now, really.
[But THIS young lady, who, whom I've only just met, only just now, really.]
We haven't been introduced. What is your name? I'm Patricia, but everyone calls me Pat-- Patty!
^^^ {although I can't hear her actually say "name"}
Sheep??
[She's a little... Anyway,]
She says she can't, but our new brand-- brand new brand-- is absolutely guaranteed to ehh,
[She says she can't, but our new brand-- brand new brand-- is absolutely guaranteed to ehh, to ... sir?]
I don't know what. Sir! Do help yourselves. Don't be shy. Madam!"
[I don't know what I... Sir! Do help yourselves. Don't be shy. No? Madam!"]
It's not me. It's HER they're lookin at.
^^^
"It really is very-- I mean, I, normally myself ... I'm a chewing gum girl myself. But even I. No?"
^^^
Maybe they don't like he bubblegum, either."
[Maybe they don't like the bubblegum, either."]
"Sir? You don't. Why don't you like it? Why? Is it the color?
^^^
Is it the smell?
[Is it the, the smell?]
Is it the design on the wrapper?"
^^^
And nobody knows what's she's talking about.
^^^
So, then I went home.
^^^
OK, that was fun, thanks!
Anyone interested can provide alternate interpretations of what I think I am sure about, or enlightenment where I am still confused!