[REL] Облако над раем - Oblako nad rayem (1999) [Russia]

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Re: [REL] Облако над раем - Oblako nad rayem (1999) [Russia]

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Downloadable from here:
https://ulozto.net/file/yX566KNaANBv/ob ... qPHTDmLj==

Age-restricted videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbxDnr2GGPg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5wDfrcAMEs

Every single version I have seen of this has ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE quality, and looks like it is sourced from a videotape that was buried with radioactive waste in the forests outside Chernobyl. Maybe that is an "artistic choice"?

This emule link is still active and complete:
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Re: [REL] Облако над раем - Oblako nad rayem (1999) [Russia]

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I suppose that at vkontskte is the same low quality copy https://vk.com/video-52682177_456239216

Russian title teanslates as Clouds above the paradise
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Re: [REL] Облако над раем - Oblako nad rayem (1999) [Russia]

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ferdi111 wrote: Tue Sep 06, 2022 9:04 am I suppose that at vkontskte is the same low quality copy https://vk.com/video-52682177_456239216
Well, it is still bad, but it is one of the best of the bad. (The first YouTube link being the other "good" one.) This VK link demanded that I login to see it, and I do not have a VK login. 9xbuddy will download the video WITHOUT a login:

https://9xbuddy.xyz/en-1ba

(Do NOT click the Play icon on the video at ferdi's VK link. Just copy the link into 9xbuddy. It will also download the Age-restricted YouTube links without logging in.)

For comparison here are 6 screenshots from ferdi's VK link:
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Here are 6 bluer-tinted screenshots from my first YouTube link (Kids Short Film Channel):
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See how fuzzy the image is, and how hard it is to read the hardcoded English subtitles? Sigh.

Both are 480p but with different frame rates:
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Re: [REL] Облако над раем - Oblako nad rayem (1999) [Russia]

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Can a video editing like Topaz improve the quality, or is it too far low quality to try?
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NRJ wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2023 1:31 am Can a video editing like Topaz improve the quality, or is it too far low quality to try?

Dammit, when I saw the bump I was hoping someone found an upgrade. You toy with us!!! :icon_nunu

Just kidding. About the toying anyway. For some reason, even though this movie was released in 1999, the only available version is unwatchably bad. You have to deliberately convert a video into resolution this low. No broadcast, stream, or DVD looks so shitty. Topaz or any other video processing software needs source material of a certain quality level. If you try to "upgrade" video of really poor quality it ends up looking even worse. Every once in a while I look around to see if I can find a streaming version somewhere, no luck so far.
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Yeah I was curious when I saw the bump as well!

But I suppose, even if no new version is available, it still reminds us to look again. One of my recent upgrade posts used a file that wasn't available last year.

You're right, deadman. But may it was the original filming crew that is toying with us!
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pillowbaker wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2023 2:23 am Yeah I was curious when I saw the bump as well!

But I suppose, even if no new version is available, it still reminds us to look again. One of my recent upgrade posts used a file that wasn't available last year.

You're right, deadman. But may it was the original filming crew that is toying with us!

My guess is, the version circulating around was uploaded to a site like YouTube (or a Russian equivalent) back in the early 2000's, when cruddy resolution was the only resolution, and most of the videos had those stroboscopic super-low framerates as well. Halfway between a slideshow and a video.

This short probably did the film festival circuit back in 1999 and that was that. Maybe I'll try to figure out who the rightsholder is and send them an email. Or something.
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Re: [REL] Облако над раем - Oblako nad rayem (1999) [Russia]

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Topaz or any other video processing software needs source material of a certain quality level. If you try to "upgrade" video of really poor quality it ends up looking even worse.
It's sad, but true. The result would even look worse. :(
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