[REL] Le nécrophile (2004) [short movie]

[Minakami]

I thought the ending was out of left field, a different horror subgenre and a bit of a tonal departure, a little too whimsical instead of creepily funny. Maybe the director was concerned that a more somber ending might have totally alienated all audiences, as he had enough trouble getting the film made in the first place. Check out this IMDB Trivia:

When the film passed in front of a commission in charge of the protection of children, a representative of the CNC, Alain Lameyre, launches into a moralizing shootout, denouncing an "apology for pedophilia", a trend that the project however never stated. David Kessler, then president of the CNC, disowned his representative. But the damage is done: Barassat must go back to Elisabeth Guigou, then Minister of Labor, to obtain a favorable opinion. Filming can start. The little girl is found, in the person of Ilona Szabo, and it is the brilliant Portuguese filmmaker João Cesar Monteiro who must play the title role. Alas, seriously ill, he retired. Laurent Terzieff, who had agreed to replace him, also withdraws. A few days before the shoot, Barassat meets Freddy Bournane, an actor with a vampire physique. Authorisation. But, in the meantime, the occupational medicine refuses to give its authorization to the other children appearing in the film. Barassat must find boys aged 16. When it finally turns, its treasury is in the red because of the various delays. The assembly will be done with misery. The projected version lasts 48 minutes, it is banned at least 16 years old but is finally broadcast on Arte.

Note the supposed 10-minute longer projected version. What are we missing, hmm? Is it time for an original "Director's Cut" version to be released on a 4KUHD disc packed with extras? I would pay $60 for that without hesitation.

I finally found the full version! This is so exciting!

I watched Le Nécrophile a long time ago and thought that was all there was to it—but to my surprise, I’ve now discovered there’s much more to it. It’s such a surreal experience, like digging up a bucket of gold in your own backyard.

Director Philippe Barassat actually renamed the full version Amours Mortes, and guess what? It’s not 48 mins long—it’s 1h10mins! That’s nearly double the length of Le Nécrophile!

What amazed me even more is that the film isn’t a silent movie at all. In this full version, we finally get to hear Ilona Szabo’s original voice. The additional scenes also make the story much more coherent and easier to follow.

The only downside is that a pesky timer is visible in some shots, blocking parts of the image—but this is the best version I’ve been able to find.
[Image]

I don’t understand French, so I really hope someone fluent can help make subtitles.
[Image]
[Image]
[Image]
[Image]
[Image]
[Image]

Like this post to see ed2k links  [3.21 GiB]

[Night457]

What a great find Minakami, thank you! Honestly I did not even remember that there was a missing long version even though I posted about it. I searched to find more information and found the DVD: [Code]

Bonus : "Amours mortes", version longue du film (1h10) totalement inédite.

Translation: Bonus: "Amours mortes", a completely new extended version of the film (1h10).)

The timecode on the additional scenes is from the workprint, which is probably the only remaining source for them.

[ghost]

WOW! What a great find.

[relic]

If it is possible to get a ddl for the long version and subs I would appreciate it.
Thanks. Relic

[Night457]

If it is possible to get a ddl for the long version and subs I would appreciate it.

Direct-download: [Code] [Code] We most likely will have to wait for a Whisper-encoder to generate subtitles for the long version.

[Minakami]

If it is possible to get a ddl for the long version and subs I would appreciate it.
Thanks. Relic

I'm trying to make subs, but my French and English are both poor, that makes the process really hard... but I'm still trying.

[endurro]

Is there a lot of missing dialogue in this short film? I've read that there are subtitles for the short version. What's the plan? Add subtitles to the long version or create new subtitles? How many lines are in the subtitles for the short version?

EDIT:

I skimmed through the film on rewind. If subtitles are missing only for the fragments marked with a timer, then according to rough calculations, only a few sentences are missing. The problem could be quickly solved by someone whose native language is French. I noticed that the audio track is unclear. For someone who does not know French and creates subtitles with the help of AI, this is a serious impediment. You need to work on denoising and amplifying the dialogues. And it is harder for such a person to verify the correctness of the transcription made by the machine.

[Minakami]

Is there a lot of missing dialogue in this short film? I've read that there are subtitles for the short version. What's the plan? Add subtitles to the long version or create new subtitles? How many lines are in the subtitles for the short version?

EDIT:

I skimmed through the film on rewind. If subtitles are missing only for the fragments marked with a timer, then according to rough calculations, only a few sentences are missing. The problem could be quickly solved by someone whose native language is French. I noticed that the audio track is unclear. For someone who does not know French and creates subtitles with the help of AI, this is a serious impediment. You need to work on denoising and amplifying the dialogues. And it is harder for such a person to verify the correctness of the transcription made by the machine.

The extended version includes a lot of new dialogue — way more than just a few lines. After all, its runtime is twice as long as the short version.

The short version cuts out many important scenes. For example, the entire storyline where the little girl goes to the police station by herself was removed, and so was the beach confession scene with the boy. The extended version even features an additional song!

A lot of the silent scene subtitles in the short version are just brief summaries of much longer lines from the extended version, so relying on the short version’s subtitles alone definitely isn’t enough.

As for the timer — it doesn’t show up for all the new content. It only appears randomly on a few frames, and many new shots don’t have it at all.

The audio track is indeed not very clear, so AI isn’t reliable, but I’ve already manually transcribed most of it. It should be finished in a few days (though I can’t guarantee the accuracy).

[endurro]

@Minakami
In that case, I won't try to use my own methods to decipher these subtitles. Or, if you can't decipher some sentences, I can only deal with those sentences. But I can't guarantee success because if your AI couldn't do it, mine might not be able to either.
Besides, I still don't know what the quality of my "La Petite Allumeuse" subtitles is because no French person has verified them.

As for the lyrics to the song, there shouldn't be a problem as long as you identify the title of the song. The lyrics can probably be found on the internet.

[pillowbaker]

Hi Minakami and endurro. I would be happy to help review the French subs your create for this film. I have some mild experience with French over the years. But last time I worked with someone on a French project, they said their French was poor, yet their knowledge of the language seemed better than mine! Darn humble Europeans.

I've been able to transcribe some French by ear before. Had to do this a fair bit for Between the Rails, where the speakers were actors who were not fluent, thus eluding the whisper transcription.

Just keep in mind I have another sub project (possibly two soon), so it will be sporadic. Still, I would love you see what you come up, Minakami. Please take your time.