[REL] El nino pez (2009)

[loverboy]

I have never liked the Verified Off-Topic section & consider it's existence responsible for a lot of these problems.

I know these are only Posting Guidelines & possibly they need slightly strengthening but I don't have a problem understanding the following.....

A film does not have to be primarily about children and they don't need to be the central characters, but they must be more than mere 'props'. In other words, if the children in a film could be removed without changing the plot or they're only shown for a minute or two, the movie probably isn't FLM material. In general, kids should have at least 10% screen-time.
'Children' includes kids up to the age of 16. Many children's roles are played by actors or actresses older than that, but if the characters they play are 16 or younger, that's acceptable.

Although a certain degree of latitude can & should be applied, surely blatant & persistent posting of off-topic material should either go to the graveyard or simply be deleted. I know it's fashionable around here to criticise the former FLM & how it was run but it seemed to work well enough then.

Addressing the question of amateur YouTube shorts as discussed in another thread I also don't have a problem understanding the following.....

Films and videos must be commercially made - home movies, home-made YouTube videos, or other amateur-made films aren't valid. Generally, if a film is listed at any of IMDb, RareFilmFinder, Lost Movies Archive, Children in Cinema, CVMC, or a country's film board, it's okay to post.

There was a post from Rich or maybe Ghost that I can't find from many years ago stating that home-made clips would not be welcome here because it wasn't felt appropriate to clutter up the forum with garbage from kids who basically had zero talent. Yes, the current crop can be amusing/cute & are of a far more professional production but in the absence of a recognised classification should not really be here. While it probably does no harm to show links to YouTube clips/down load sites etc in a relevent section our criteria for a valid release is an ed2k link & as such one should not be generated in these cases.

lb

[ARTHORIUS]

When i was posted stuff that i've thought the right thread i've always write that if this was off topic they can be moved on the right section graveyard too, without problems.

[Phuzzy4242]

When i was posted stuff that i've thought the right thread i've always write that if this was off topic they can be moved on the right section graveyard too, without problems.

But Art, if you think something is a candidate for the graveyard, why would you post it in the first place? If you watch a movie before you post it, you know whether it's on-topic or not. If you're not certain it's OT, it probably isn't.

[starfish21]

Because Art lives on the borderline.

[ARTHORIUS]

For me this is in a limit of OT

But it's my opinion

[Phuzzy4242]

So let's return to the main question - is this film on-topic or isn't it?

* The description and thumbnails don't indicate anything about the film being on-topic.
* One comment says it is NOT on-topic.
* One comment asks why WE are being forced to download it before determining if it's on-topic.
* The releaser admits that it's at the limit of on-topic for him.

Any other comments? I don't want to be arbitrary, but if someone doesn't confirm it's OT, I'll move it to Confirmed Off-Topic.

[starfish21]

A better question might be 'has anyone actually seen it?'

[ARTHORIUS]

Ok ok no problem for me it can be moved.

I was joking...honestly isn't the right post to be OT

[starfish21]

after all the attention this got,i've decided to download it,watch this space.

[ptguardian]

I have this as I implied but will leave it to others to decide as I do not 'live on the border' and am obviously bias towards children actually being in a movie posted.